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Transmission fluid. Any full synthetic alternatives to ATF +4?
I know there are differences in air, oil filters etc. I am use to getting my filters at walmart for my previous vehicles, but wonder if maybe I need something a bit better than the Fram they sell at wallyworld.
I would also like to start using a synthetic 5W20 oil, and WW sells some different kinds, and I have a 111000 miles on the 2009 Ram I just bought.
Some suggestion/insight from you who have been doing this for a long time would be appreciated
I would also like to start using a synthetic 5W20 oil, and WW sells some different kinds, and I have a 111000 miles on the 2009 Ram I just bought.
Some suggestion/insight from you who have been doing this for a long time would be appreciated
This is from the MSDS page from an older Chrysler training manual. Note that is states it is fully synthetic. It also states that it is a PROPRIETARY fluid, meaning no one can replicate it unless they acquire a license to manufacture. I would be apprehensive in using anything but ATF+4 from Chrysler. Even if a company has acquired a license to manufacture ATF+4, it does not mean that the actual recipe in the package has been certified by Chrysler unless so stated on the package.
Regards,
Dusty
2014 Ram Big Horn 1500 Quad Cab2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP70, 3.92 LSD, factory dual exhaust, 20” wheels. Now at:042173 miles.
"Developed by the Lubrizol Corporation andcurrently manufactured by Havoline, Chrysler Type 9602 or ATF+4 is a specially formulated fully synthetic automatic transmission fluid that incorporates a very high viscosity index (VHVI) base stock and contains a unique and exclusive high-strength additive package. This transmission fluid is engineered to be a "fill-for-life" fluid under normal driving conditions with a minimum practical end life of 150,000 miles. Designed exclusively for DaimlerChrysler automatic transmissions, it is also recommended for certain manual transmissions and all 1999 and newer Chrysler power steering systems. ATF+4 is fully compatible with all transmission applications where Type 7176fluids (ATF+, ATF+2, or ATF+3) have previously been specified.
"Through the use of its patented and proprietary additive package ATF+4 will maintain theoriginal shift quality of all Chrysler designed automatic transmissions. It contains superior properties for low temperature operation to -55 degrees C,and maintains a high viscosity index above 350 F. ATF+4 produces superior wear and rust prevention qualities especially when compared to Dexron-Mercon or aftermarket synthetic fluids. ATF+4 controls oxidation to a much higher degree than Dexron-Mercon series fluids and represents a notable improvement over ATF+3.
"ATF+4 reduces the effects of moisture and will practically eliminate the formation of deposits in otherwise healthy transmissions. Its exclusive friction modifier composition also controls friction and maintains the minimum surface loss of transmission clutches. ATF+4 contains the maximum anti-foaming characteristics of any currently marketed ATF.
"ATF+ series automatic transmission fluids must be operated in a ATF+ pure operating environment and are highly susceptible to chemical destabilization from non-ATF+ automatic transmission fluids. Automatic transmissions designed and manufactured by Chrysler Corporation or DaimlerChrysler using ATF+3 may use ATF+4, either as a supplement or for full replenishment.
Regards,
Dusty
2014 Ram Big Horn 1500 Quad Cab2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP70, 3.92 LSD, factory dual exhaust, 20” wheels. Now at:042173 miles.
"Developed by the Lubrizol Corporation andcurrently manufactured by Havoline, Chrysler Type 9602 or ATF+4 is a specially formulated fully synthetic automatic transmission fluid that incorporates a very high viscosity index (VHVI) base stock and contains a unique and exclusive high-strength additive package. This transmission fluid is engineered to be a "fill-for-life" fluid under normal driving conditions with a minimum practical end life of 150,000 miles. Designed exclusively for DaimlerChrysler automatic transmissions, it is also recommended for certain manual transmissions and all 1999 and newer Chrysler power steering systems. ATF+4 is fully compatible with all transmission applications where Type 7176fluids (ATF+, ATF+2, or ATF+3) have previously been specified.
"Through the use of its patented and proprietary additive package ATF+4 will maintain theoriginal shift quality of all Chrysler designed automatic transmissions. It contains superior properties for low temperature operation to -55 degrees C,and maintains a high viscosity index above 350 F. ATF+4 produces superior wear and rust prevention qualities especially when compared to Dexron-Mercon or aftermarket synthetic fluids. ATF+4 controls oxidation to a much higher degree than Dexron-Mercon series fluids and represents a notable improvement over ATF+3.
"ATF+4 reduces the effects of moisture and will practically eliminate the formation of deposits in otherwise healthy transmissions. Its exclusive friction modifier composition also controls friction and maintains the minimum surface loss of transmission clutches. ATF+4 contains the maximum anti-foaming characteristics of any currently marketed ATF.
"ATF+ series automatic transmission fluids must be operated in a ATF+ pure operating environment and are highly susceptible to chemical destabilization from non-ATF+ automatic transmission fluids. Automatic transmissions designed and manufactured by Chrysler Corporation or DaimlerChrysler using ATF+3 may use ATF+4, either as a supplement or for full replenishment.
Last edited by Dusty48; Jul 21, 2016 at 08:29 AM.
I have a 2001 Cheysler Neon 2.0 LX 4 spd Automatic. It is very hard and expensive to get ATF+4 in South Africa. Even more so that Chrysler pulled out of South Africa about 3 years ago.





