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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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i have been wondering something how is it that dodge can make 390 hp 410 ft lb torque and
chevy-6.2 liter vortec 403 hp 417 ft lb torque
ford- 6.2 liter 411 hp 434 ft lb torque
toyota- 5.7 liter 381 hp 401 ft lb torque
nissan-5.6 liter 317 hp 385 ft lb torque

so how is it that for ford and chevy to make just a little more power they have to have an engine that has .5 liter of displacement on dodge
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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our hemi has more technology in it than fords or chevys big motors. Ours has variable cam timing and a short/long runner intake.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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It is probably due to the Hemi head configuration.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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All of those engines look pretty impressive when compared to my 1979 Z28.

180hp!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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You can not look at CID and say it should have x more or less HP. Look at the little 4 and 6 bangers making 300+ HP.

The same CID Hemi made 345HP prior to 09. And there is plenty more to be had with the 5.7 down the line.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 02:27 AM
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get rid of emissions requirements, and you could easily pull a few more just off having a free-er flowing exhaust (no cats, no resonator, performance muffler).
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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true agreed the technology has taken dodge along way with the new hemi configuration and also agreed displacement doesnt mean hp but i could see with a few changes ford and chevy with the bigger displacement becoming a powerhouse with the bigger engines. would i be correct in that statement.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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With lots of money, you can make anything have more power, hemi or not, all are capable of a little more HP/TQ.
But i see the biggest advantage with a hemi, you can add more power to it cheaper than you can with a ford or chevy.
The potential is there, but more for the hemi, than any other engine. The hemi is a stronger design over the others as well.
Also, take into concideration, ford & chevy engines are pretty much maxed out, the hemi can withstand alot more HP/TQ by far.
 

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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My Charger 5.7 is N/A on a stock rotating assembly, and a Pre-Eagle setup as well, although I plan on changing that soon. Anyways my stock numbers were pushing 293 rwhp (Can't recall rwtq).

I completely striped out anything emissions, 02's, ERG Valve (blocked off), Cats, etc...

CAI, 180 T-stat, 87mm TB, 6.1 ported intake manifold, 268 XFI Cam, 6.1 rods/springs, Mopars Heads, Mopar High-Flow Cats, Custom Exhaust, and still running Pre-Eagle stock heads. After a CMR tune I'm sitting around 412 rwhp and 426 rwtq, as of September of this year. These motors do have huge potential, especially the couple years, back in 05-06 there was very little on the market, hell the JET Chip was a big deal then, now really not even looked upon.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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And.....

Those numbers are with a 19-20% tranny loss, so it's pretty close to 500 at the motor.
 
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