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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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^^screwed on the trail and then open the wallet for the green or plastic!
 
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Haha mikey...auto climate control is definitely a very nice option! Theres no more changes in temperature as the temp varies outside as you are driving. I literally have it set at 22 and I don't touch it. It knows when to defrost the windshield, put more heat to the floor, whichever. I definitely pay for it tho, but it seems to come standard with the leather which I also have.

In my opinion I like this electronic shifting. Especially this auto 4x4 option. I will admit tho when I just bought the truck I was turning that *** by accident before I let the heat do everything automatically. My truck did not even seem to try and engage because I never realized what I did at the time. I still felt cold looked down and noticed I didnt change the fan speed but tried to put it into 4 low! Truck didnt even try to shift into it. So it must have some kind of speed interlock....

Also the fact that you can shift on the fly is very very good. There are times that I have been driving on a clear highway, hit a spot where there was a nice snow drifting over the highway, literally a patch of ice. It was nice to snow down and throw it in 4x4 to get that little bit more traction....has its ups and downs I guess, but remember I do have a 2011
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Yeah the shift on the fly is nice for me in Alaska because our neighborhood is never plowed and then once I get to the highway, it's bone dry. Saves me from getting in and out of the truck all the time. Or having to come to a complete stop and manually shift the lever.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeyyy816

I accidentally switched it to 4wd as I am already doing 60mph on the on ramp ...I noticed it the minute I switched it b/c the switch is a little stiffer. So I switched it right back before it had time to engage but I heard quite a bit of a clunk, pulled over just to cycle it and make sure it was fully disengaged, all seems to work fine. You'd think they'd add a safety interlock switch to allow it not to shift above a certain speed... right?
You pulled over?? It's a shift on the fly 4 wheel drive system. I shft mine in and out at whatever speed I want, it will go into 4lock at any speed the vehicle is capable of without issue. It won't go into 4low unless the the truck is rolling very slowly in neural. I've tried lots of times. The light will flash and you will continue in whatever mode you are currently in until it can shift.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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yes I pulled over...your telling me if you heard a loud clunk you'd just keep driving? It sure as hell didn't sounds right or normal. I was doing 60, sorry but if I was doing 60, shift on the fly or not I wouldn't shift it into 4wd lock....think of everything engaging doing 60, it's not good for your drive train components to do going that speed, whether dodge says you can or not.


and yes it will continue to flash if you shift into 4 low 2-3mph in neutral. I didn't shift into 4 low, just into 4wd lock, it clearly didn't sound right doing 60mph, so I pulled over, guess I made an *** out of myself for checking out my truck, after something abnormal?!?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeyyy816
yes I pulled over...your telling me if you heard a loud clunk you'd just keep driving? It sure as hell didn't sounds right or normal. I was doing 60, sorry but if I was doing 60, shift on the fly or not I wouldn't shift it into 4wd lock....think of everything engaging doing 60, it's not good for your drive train components to do going that speed, whether dodge says you can or not.


and yes it will continue to flash if you shift into 4 low 2-3mph in neutral. I didn't shift into 4 low, just into 4wd lock, it clearly didn't sound right doing 60mph, so I pulled over, guess I made an *** out of myself for checking out my truck, after something abnormal?!?
Doesn't make you stupid mikey, I would have done the same if I heard that. I will say tho that I have shifted into 4lock at 100k with no issues. This is the 1 time that I was driving on a perfectly dry highway and hit ice. was in 2wd, then switch to 4lock. Yes there was a little resistance in it, and ya I felt it but it was not a "clunk" It might have been that when you switched it when it engaged it did so but not smoothly like it would other times, computers sometimes screw up timing!

This is why I begin to like 4auto more and more, if I am ever unsure I have it in 4 auto. Its not going to wear out tires or anything, puts a little more strain on the front drive shaft, but definitely WAY better then running in full 4. I also know that by doing 100k in 4 auto then go into 4 lock there will be no chance of damage. Because the truck is already in 4wd its just running on a different ratio. 4 lock is the same power % on all 4 tires, 4 auto the fronts are still engaged but the power is pretty much non-existant. It doesn't take from 2 and automatically put it in 4wd. Pretty good in my opinion...
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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The manual I believe says don't switch into 4auto or lock at over 100km/h. And not into 4 low more then 20km/h...I generally don't switch from 2wd into 4auto or lock unless I am under 60kms/h, I don't switch into 4low unless I am almost stopped. But if I am already in 4auto I don't think it really matter "too" much if your going to switch into 4lock. Again as I stated the drive train is already engaged at 4auto. Don't as me how it transfers the power at different ratios, thats magic in my mind! :P
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Doesn't make you stupid mikey, I would have done the same if I heard that. I will say tho that I have shifted into 4lock at 100k with no issues. This is the 1 time that I was driving on a perfectly dry highway and hit ice. was in 2wd, then switch to 4lock. Yes there was a little resistance in it, and ya I felt it but it was not a "clunk" It might have been that when you switched it when it engaged it did so but not smoothly like it would other times, computers sometimes screw up timing!

This is why I begin to like 4auto more and more, if I am ever unsure I have it in 4 auto. Its not going to wear out tires or anything, puts a little more strain on the front drive shaft, but definitely WAY better then running in full 4. I also know that by doing 100k in 4 auto then go into 4 lock there will be no chance of damage. Because the truck is already in 4wd its just running on a different ratio. 4 lock is the same power % on all 4 tires, 4 auto the fronts are still engaged but the power is pretty much non-existant. It doesn't take from 2 and automatically put it in 4wd. Pretty good in my opinion...
My truck doesn't have 4 auto, I have the 4 mode select...2wd/4 lock/ 4 low/ neutral. So I don't have that luxury of doing that...but unlike you I don't get the amount of snow y'all do up there, so I'm not to worried about it. I'm hoping to get stationed in FL next for my next unit, and if I do...I'll be one of the few w/ 4x4 haha.

Also your prob. right the computer might of messed something up, bc 100km is right around 60mph if I am correct...

This is directly out of the manual:
4WD LOCK
Four-Wheel Drive Lock Range - This range locks the front
and rear driveshafts together forcing the front and rear
wheels to rotate at the same speed. This range provides
additional traction for loose, slippery road surfaces only.
4WD LOW
Four-Wheel Drive Low Range - This range provides low
speed four-wheel drive. It locks the front and rear
driveshafts together forcing the front and rear wheels to
rotate at the same speed. This range provides additional
traction and maximum pulling power for loose, slippery
road surfaces only. Do not exceed 25 mph (40 km/h).

2WD⇔ 4WD LOCK
Rotate the 4WD control switch to the desired position.
Shifts between 2WD and 4WD LOCK can be done with
the vehicle stopped or in motion. With the vehicle in
motion, the transfer case will engage/disengage faster if
you momentarily release the accelerator pedal after turning
the control switch. If the vehicle is stopped, the
ignition key must be in the ON position with the engine
either running or off. This shift cannot be completed if the
key is in the ACC position.
NOTE: The four-wheel drive system will not allow
shifts between 2WD/4WD LOCK if the front and/or rear
wheels are spinning (no traction). In this situation, the selected position indicator light will flash and the original
position indicator light will remain ON. At this time,
reduce speed and stop spinning the wheels to complete
the shift.
2WD or 4WD LOCK⇔ 4WD LOW
NOTE: When shifting into or out of 4WD LOW some
gear noise may be heard. This noise is normal and is not
detrimental to the vehicle or occupants.
Shifting can be performed with the vehicle rolling 2 to
3 mph (3 to 5 km/h) or completely stopped. You can use
either of the following procedures:
Preferred Procedure
1. With the engine running, slow the vehicle to 2 to
3 mph (3 to 5 km/h).
2. Shift the transmission into NEUTRAL.
3. While still rolling, rotate the transfer case control
switch to the desired position.
4. After the desired position indicator light is ON (not
flashing), shift the transmission back into gear.
Alternate Procedure
1. Bring the vehicle to a complete stop.
2. With the key ON and the engine either OFF or
running, shift the transmission into NEUTRAL.
3. Rotate the transfer case control switch to the desired
position.
4. After the desired position indicator light is ON (not
flashing), shift the transmission back into gear.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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If your tires aren't exactly the same size front to back then it will clunk everytime you shift on the fly, it will also delay switching back and forth. I use my 4x4 lots all winter long in all kinds of different scenarios, And road conditions. if it clunked from time to time going in or out? yeah I would keep driving. Sorry for coming across harshly, didn't want you to feel stupid.
I just don't want you to think you wrecked your truck. I see lots of people afraid to use their vehicle for what it was designed for because they're scared they might wreck it.
Like I said I drive any speed I want on any road condition and I've never had any damage result.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Also Nate. I believe 4auto works with clutches In the transfer case. So running in 4auto is the same as 2hi until the wheels slip, then the clutches engage and the front wheels will engage. You then receive full 4 wheel drive until the vehicle regains traction to the rear wheels.
 
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