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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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I just installed HID's in my low beams and fog lights yesterday. Now today i have a service tire pressure system message coming up and staying on. The low beams have the cancellers. Also my left fog light stopped working already. Is there anything that can be done to fix this?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trucker86
I just installed HID's in my low beams and fog lights yesterday. Now today i have a service tire pressure system message coming up and staying on. The low beams have the cancellers. Also my left fog light stopped working already. Is there anything that can be done to fix this?
Likely the HID box`s are messing with the radio frequencies of the tire pressure monitors. (not uncommon if chinesism made)
Did you buy your HID`s off egay (ebay)...???? if so, likely made in china. (cheap chinesism HID units really are inferior... junk quality, lucky if they last a day)

Also, wanted to ask, did you install projectors when you put the HID`s in...???
HID bulbs are NOT designed to be run in a stock OEM headlight housing. (cause`s EXTREME glare...!!! not safe for you OR oncoming traffic...!!!!)
 

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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LU229
Likely the HID box`s are messing with the radio frequencies of the tire pressure monitors. (not uncommon if chinesism made)
Did you buy your HID`s off egay (ebay)...???? if so, likely made in china. (cheap chinesism HID units really are inferior... junk quality, lucky if they last a day)

Also, wanted to ask, did you install projectors when you put the HID`s in...???
HID bulbs are NOT designed to be run in a stock OEM headlight housing. (cause`s EXTREME glare...!!! not safe for you OR oncoming traffic...!!!!)
As mentioned, some HID ballasts interfere with the TPMS communication. Some happen only when the lights are turned on, some mess things up all the time. There is nothing you can do short of replacing the HID kit with another one of a different type. I supposed you could play around with the mounting location of the ballasts, but that seems unlikely to fix it.

I do wish people would jump off the soapbox about HIDs and the need for projectors. Though HIDs are best used with projectors, it is not true that EVERY vehicle headlight setup is a problem with HIDs. The RAM's headlight housings work OK with HIDs. I have them. I have been driving in a vehicle approaching my oncoming truck at night and the headlights are not blinding. They are not worse than any other factory HID setup. Stock Ford trucks are worse to approach than mine. My headlights have a clear cutoff. I do not get flashed by other drivers. So please stop getting all worked up about people who use HIDs in a RAM. Just because you've been blinded by someone else in another type of vehicle with aftermarket HIDs does not mean they are all bad. The RAM headlight housing happens to work decently with them.

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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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As mentioned, some HID ballasts interfere with the TPMS communication. Some happen only when the lights are turned on, some mess things up all the time. There is nothing you can do short of replacing the HID kit with another one of a different type. I supposed you could play around with the mounting location of the ballasts, but that seems unlikely to fix it.

I do wish people would jump off the soapbox about HIDs and the need for projectors. Though HIDs are best used with projectors, it is not true that EVERY vehicle headlight setup is a problem with HIDs. The RAM's headlight housings work OK with HIDs. I have them. I have been driving in a vehicle approaching my oncoming truck at night and the headlights are not blinding. They are not worse than any other factory HID setup. Stock Ford trucks are worse to approach than mine. My headlights have a clear cutoff. I do not get flashed by other drivers. So please stop getting all worked up about people who use HIDs in a RAM. Just because you've been blinded by someone else in another type of vehicle with aftermarket HIDs does not mean they are all bad. The RAM headlight housing happens to work decently with them.

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I had a set of ballasts from HID extra, they came with capacitors. For just about a year I had no issues at all. Then just before I traded the truck off I was getting a TPMS warning, however only when the headlights would come on, or when I switched to high beams. Now I have a set of ballasts from retrosolutions, again no issues to date.

Now what you could try is running a relay setup if you are not already doing so. You can buy the wiring kits, or make your own, depends on how good you are with wires. But basically all you are doing is running the power to the ballasts right from the battery, with a relay that is hooked into your headlight plug. This way you are drawing power from the battery and not through your computer. Sometimes that will help solve the flickering or TPMS problem. If I were you this is where I would start.

I totally agree with Blue. I had HIDs in a stock housing, I had to adjust them of course. That is what the biggest issue is, people just replace the bulbs and don't adjust anything. My BIGGEST peeve is those guys with lifts, they raise the truck and don't adjust the headlights. Those are the guys that blind people, guys that don't realize they need adjusting. Just pop em out, put the bulbs in, mount the ballasts, put it back in and your done.
However I think the need for projectors is there for those guys with extreme lifts. They need to see the road, so they have to raise it up enough to do so. They then will cause glare and blind people.
 
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Its ok to disagree guys, you have your thoughts & opinions, i have mine.
OEM housings vs HID bulbs, should never be used in them, they wern`t designed to use HID bulbs.
I`m not saying dont run them, i`m just saying its not a good idea.
Look up the gov`t vehicle traffic & safety laws, thers a GOOD reason you dont see HID in a halogen housing from the factory...!

Here is why:
Reflection...!!!! To bright can sometimes take away your better vision.
Also, havent you ever noticed when bright lights coming at you, you are temporaily blinded by them...???
After that happens, ever notice how long it takes for your eyes to re-correct themselves...???
Take a bright LED flashlight, quickly shine it in your eyes like a passing vehicle...
did you notice how much LESS you can see in front of you...?!?!?!? Would you concider THAT a safety issue...???

No thank you, i`ll stay with halogens in a headlight housing that was designed for halogen bulbs.
If i want HID, i`ll only go with HID WITH projectors... nothing more, nothing less.

And BigBlueEdge,
i disagree with you about people flashing, i get flashed all the time, and my HALOGEN headlights are aimed as low as i dare go.
But then again, i AM, running the silverstar ultra`s, and they ARE concideribly much brighter than the stock OEM bulbs.
 

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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LU229
Its ok to disagree guys, you have your thoughts & opinions, i have mine.
OEM housings vs HID bulbs, should never be used in them, they wern`t designed to use HID bulbs.
I`m not saying dont run them, i`m just saying its not a good idea.
Look up the gov`t vehicle traffic & safety laws, thers a GOOD reason you dont see HID in a halogen housing from the factory...!

Here is why:
Reflection...!!!! To bright can sometimes take away your better vision.
Also, havent you ever noticed when bright lights coming at you, you are temporaily blinded by them...???
After that happens, ever notice how long it takes for your eyes to re-correct themselves...???
Take a bright LED flashlight, quickly shine it in your eyes like a passing vehicle...
did you notice how much LESS you can see in front of you...?!?!?!? Would you concider THAT a safety issue...???

No thank you, i`ll stay with halogens in a headlight housing that was designed for halogen bulbs.
If i want HID, i`ll only go with HID WITH projectors... nothing more, nothing less.

And BigBlueEdge,
i disagree with you about people flashing, i get flashed all the time, and my HALOGEN headlights are aimed as low as i dare go.
But then again, i AM, running the silverstar ultra`s, and they ARE concideribly much brighter than the stock OEM bulbs.
Regarding brightness and the safety issue, I'm telling you that my truck's lights do not look any brighter to an oncoming vehicle than any other vehicle with good HID or Xenon lights. If they are no brighter then they are no 'worse' for safety issues. I know some vehicles with aftermarket HIDs are much brighter. Mine aren't.

I'm not sure what there is to disagree with about people flashing me. Unless you're saying I'm lying. I don't get flashed. Maybe you do, but I don't. I have my lights adjusted properly and other vehicles don't seem to indicate a problem.

If you don't like HIDs in stock housings that's perfectly fine opinion to have. Tell everybody how you feel. But don't tell them that HIDs are ALWAYS causing problems because that is simply not universally true.

Rob
 
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Old Mar 18, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlueEdge
Regarding brightness and the safety issue, I'm telling you that my truck's lights do not look any brighter to an oncoming vehicle than any other vehicle with good HID or Xenon lights. If they are no brighter then they are no 'worse' for safety issues. I know some vehicles with aftermarket HIDs are much brighter. Mine aren't.

I'm not sure what there is to disagree with about people flashing me. Unless you're saying I'm lying. I don't get flashed. Maybe you do, but I don't. I have my lights adjusted properly and other vehicles don't seem to indicate a problem.

If you don't like HIDs in stock housings that's perfectly fine opinion to have. Tell everybody how you feel. But don't tell them that HIDs are ALWAYS causing problems because that is simply not universally true.

Rob
Hey Rob, its all good buddy, you`re good with whatever you like, i`m good with whatever i like. I`m only just placing an opinion on my own personal experience just like everyone else in here. I never called or said you were a lier bro, i just said that, i myself, get alot of people flashing back at me thinking my hi-beams are on and they actually arent. (and MY headlights are aimed as low as i dare go, but i think i said that already) My low beams are ALOT brighter than the factory low-beam bulbs. (silverstar ultra`s vs OEM bulbs = no comparison) But where the difference is, (in MY OWN personal opinion) i would bet that those HID bulbs you`re running, ARE, quite a bit brighter than the standard OEM halogen. If that ISNT the case, (like you`ve already said) then why did you even bother putting them in your truck to start with if they wernt going to be any brighter. So with saying THAT budd, your headlights ARE brighter without a doubt in my mind. It dosent matter how low you have them aimed, they are STILL a brighter output, and they STILL glare due to the size of the OEM reflector within the OEM non HID headlight housings. In MY OWN opinion, glare IS a safety issue, like it or not. Real projector`s pull the glare level down ALOT... thats why the cars that have them dont kill your eyes like a halogen housing does with HID bulbs in them. One more thing, how many vehicles do you know of, (in the USA) that come from the factory with HID bulbs in a halogen housing...NONE. Reason...too much GLARE. Sometimes to much light is worse than just standard lighting, especially when it comes to vehicles. Sorry if you disagree... we are BOTH entitled to our own opinions. Mine is souly based on MY OWN experience.
 
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