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is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins powered power wagon?

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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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i heard that dodge will never but cummins in a power wagon b/c its just WAY to might weight and WAYYY to much power. They said that the drive train and everything just could not hold up. You would just twist, snap, bin, sink.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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i heard that dodge will never but cummins in a power wagon b/c its just WAY to might weight and WAYYY to much power. They said that the drive train and everything just could not hold up. You would just twist, snap, bin, sink.
How is a powerwagons drivetrain different from a regular 2500 drivetrain? I don't see anything different between the two?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Lets see: It has a softer riding , long travel suspension. It sits about 2" higher than a reg 2500. It has the larger diameter 1 ton axelshafts.Bilstein long travel shocks. An electronic disconnecting swaybar that increases articulation by 9". The axel tubes are thicker.The pumpkins have more steel and are reinforced. The axels have electric lockers. The transfer case in low range causes the gas pedal to be less sensitive for rough terrain. That does not count the 12,000lb warn winch-full skid plating underneath-one piece Alcoa forged rims w/inernal beadlock. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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everything about the power wagon's frame is the exact same as the 2/3500's.infact it is a 2/3500 frame. one of the real reasons you cannot slam a cummins under the hood from the factory is due to the possitioning of the frame mounted winch
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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The powerwagon is not two inches higher stock BTW... its just a hair taller because of the 285's...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Lets see: It has a softer riding , long travel suspension. It sits about 2" higher than a reg 2500. It has the larger diameter 1 ton axelshafts.Bilstein long travel shocks. An electronic disconnecting swaybar that increases articulation by 9". The axel tubes are thicker.The pumpkins have more steel and are reinforced. The axels have electric lockers. The transfer case in low range causes the gas pedal to be less sensitive for rough terrain. That does not count the 12,000lb warn winch-full skid plating underneath-one piece Alcoa forged rims w/inernal beadlock. Hope this helps.
Beautiful!! I really hope they have a 2009 or 10 powerwagon.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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VERY doubtfull one will ever come out.

the 4.56 final gear is WAY to high for the cummins. infact the 4.10's I have run a bit high for my likeing. 70mph = 2300rpm. 4.56 would mean about 27-2900rpm. just too high and runs into the upper end of the engine since it defuels(governs) at 3200rpm.

the front frame where the winch sits would mean the intercooler and the radiator would either have to be shortened, or the mount moved more forward to house the winch.

the Cummins tips the scale at nearly 1000 pounds. the hemi is only about 570pounds. if I was going hard core mudding I would choose the hemi. even I have problems with the front end of my truck sinking like an anchor and I am no where near the soft stuff.
What about the newer CTD that they are working on for the 1500 series? According to the link in another thread (2009 1/2 ton getting diesel engines); the 5.8L V8 CTD only weighs 788 lbs. and provides more power and torque than the Hemi. That would be lighter than the current CTD and still provide the greater power, torque, and mileage we are looking for?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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that is an option. . .but you still have to remember thats about 200+ pounds more weight on the front end then the hemi.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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The powerwagon is not two inches higher stock BTW... its just a hair taller because of the 285's...
Sorry tdmopar59, but you are incorrect

The Power Wagon is taller, not including the additional height of the 285's, the front end of the PW is 1.9 inches higher and the rear is 1.5 inches higher than a 2500 4X4. Most people don't look close enough, but even the frame is not the same as the standard 2500. Tractor's previous post listed many of the additional differences and why the PW is a very unique animal.

As to the possibility of a diesel in a PW, anything is possible, especially if Dodge/Chrysler start making smaller, lighter diesel motors. Economics is another reason we have not seen a diesel in the PW, and probably won't in the future, the base MSRP would be over $50,000, not many takers at that price. Add the options we all like, the MSRP would be $55,000, even less buyers at that price even with discounts. So if they did make a diesel PW, they would have to use a smaller, lighter and cheaper diesel to make it work.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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why dont they just throw a winch and a badge that says power wagon on a regular 2500 and every one will be happy.........haha
 
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