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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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I have a dual battery setup in my Ram. The second battery is a deep cycle. How should I connect the power for the amp and headunit? What shouldbe connected to the starter battery and what should beconnected to the deep cycle battery? Should the headunit and amp both be connected to the deep cycle battery? What is the best way to connect things so that draw on the starter battery is minimal?

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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I'd connect the amp to the deep cycle , Also suggest getting a battery Isolator to prevent draining the primary starting battery
The head unit draw is minimal so I'd leave it as wired from the factory(on the primary battery)
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 02:04 AM
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If you must i would connect both the amp & HU to the deep cycle. I guess you could isolate them if you want to be assured to start the truck if you drain the one battery with the stereo. Otherwise just wire them up together and dont worry about it.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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I have a relay so my batteries are only combined when the engine is running. It sounds like either way will work for me. Thanks for the input.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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You really shouldnt have 2 different batteries. If you have a regular one as a primary, then the secondary should be the same thing, if yoursecondary is a deep cycle, your primary should be as well. The batteries will basically fight each other and the deep cycle will not perform as well as it should.

Also, I assume the reason you isolated the batteries is so you won't have to worry about draining the battery that starts the truckwhen the truck isn't running right? Be careful with this! If you have a larger amplifier, that has aregulated power supply. They are very suseptable to low voltage. Many regulated power amplifiers cannot see a voltage below 10.5V or you can cook the power supply in the amplifier. You usually see this in niceramplifers over about 400W RMS. They may say they have under-voltage protection, but don't go by that. It's not an overlycommon problem, but it does happen. I've seen quite a few amps back in because people were playing them with thevehicle not running. You should always have the vehicle running when using any amplifier.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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You really shouldnt have 2 different batteries. If you have a regular one as a primary, then the secondary should be the same thing, if yoursecondary is a deep cycle, your primary should be as well. The batteries will basically fight each other and the deep cycle will not perform as well as it should.

Also, I assume the reason you isolated the batteries is so you won't have to worry about draining the battery that starts the truckwhen the truck isn't running right? Be careful with this! If you have a larger amplifier, that has aregulated power supply. They are very suseptable to low voltage. Many regulated power amplifiers cannot see a voltage below 10.5V or you can cook the power supply in the amplifier. You usually see this in niceramplifers over about 400W RMS. They may say they have under-voltage protection, but don't go by that. It's not an overlycommon problem, but it does happen. I've seen quite a few amps back in because people were playing them with thevehicle not running. You should always have the vehicle running when using any amplifier.
I have the stock 136amp alternator and the battery relay. You can read about my install in my signature. I'm thinking about using the deep cycle for the amp and leaving the headunit on the starter battery. The amp is an Infinity 7541a with 444 watts rms. I normally run the amp with the truck idling just as I do when I'm using the inverter. Thanks for telling me about cooking the amp below 10.5. I did not know that. I have a 4 gauge cable (deep cycle) under the passenger seat that is just a few feet from where I plan to install the amp. The only time my batteries are combined is when the alternator is charging above 13.3 volts. If anyone sees a problem with this setup, please let me know. Thanks again for the help and input.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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I realize the batteries are isolated, but as soon as the truck is running and the alt is charging, they are connected together. So they are sharing the same charge and will "compete" against each other if they arent the same. There is no way to completely isolate the two batteries unless you're running two alternators and the second battery has dedicated power and grounds that are seperate from any other system in the vehicle.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Now I get it. I will keep eye on them.

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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A TRUE battery Isolator prevents that , unlike the relay you are currently using
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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They are still connected when charging. What are you using for ground? You may run a seperate ground from the amp to the secondary battery, but hows the secondary battery getting ground for charging? The alt. is grounded through the motor and then through the vehicle, so your second battery HAS to hook to the chassis or motor and is therefore connected to the primary battery. All the isolator does is prevent discharging of the primary battery when the vehicle isn't charging. There is no way to truly isolate them without running two alternators.
 
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