New Calibur commercial with farie
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I have test driven one already, that's why i'm saying it's underpowered, when I said like a caravan I ment in acceleration not handling, it was very slugish, especialy for a vehicle with a $22k price tag, handling was nice though, especialy coming from a Magnum, it's much more nimble.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
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Dude; you just contradicted yourself. You said that you "wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum, but the Caliber was slower than whats acceptable to me"; that my friend is a contradiction all in one sentence. You expect do expect the Caliber to be as fast as the Magnum. You said it yourself when you said that you were somewhat spoiled to your Magnum RT. From now on my friend think before you speak.
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I have test driven one already, that's why i'm saying it's underpowered, when I said like a caravan I ment in acceleration not handling, it was very slugish, especialy for a vehicle with a $22k price tag, handling was nice though, especialy coming from a Magnum, it's much more nimble.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
I have test driven one already, that's why i'm saying it's underpowered, when I said like a caravan I ment in acceleration not handling, it was very slugish, especialy for a vehicle with a $22k price tag, handling was nice though, especialy coming from a Magnum, it's much more nimble.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
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Umm, what I said makes perfect sense, I don't need something as fast as the Magnum (low 14's 1/4 mile) but I want something faster than the Caliber (high 17's-low 18's 1/4 mile it seemed), so that means I want something in-between those two, I don't need something as fast as the Magnum, but the Caliber is significantly slower.
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I have test driven one already, that's why i'm saying it's underpowered, when I said like a caravan I ment in acceleration not handling, it was very slugish, especialy for a vehicle with a $22k price tag, handling was nice though, especialy coming from a Magnum, it's much more nimble.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
I have test driven one already, that's why i'm saying it's underpowered, when I said like a caravan I ment in acceleration not handling, it was very slugish, especialy for a vehicle with a $22k price tag, handling was nice though, especialy coming from a Magnum, it's much more nimble.
In accelration it was worse that my my 98 neon I used to own which was under $13k, admitedly i'm spoiled somewhat being used to my Magnum RT, but i've been looking some for something cheaper, wasn't looking for something as fast as the Magnum but the Caliber was slower than what's acceptable to me, both the hp and torque are lacking for a 3300 vehicle, hoping the FWD R/T will be better since it's 150ish lbs lighter than the AWD, but i'm going to have to wait till later this year when they come out to see.
I compare this to it being able to outrun our Explorer and I know it would take my 4.0L Ranger in the quarter mile.
It does not have a lot off the line, it only comes alive above 20 MPH, thats just a result of the CVT I guess, Dodge probably could have done a bit better but whatever. I know that your Neon would not stand a chance against the Caliber in any highway conditions, or just any conditions about 30 or so MPH. So even if it was slower off the line, it would only take a second for it to catch up as soon as it hit that 6,000 RPM mark and just stayed right there all the way.
Besides, what the hell does it matter what its quarter mile is. You care so much about a 2-3 second difference in quarter mile, and for what possible reason? You plan on entering some super exclusive 15 second bracket? It has enough acceleration to get you in trouble, and that should be enough. You already said it handles better than the Magnum, I bet my Caliber that it would beat a Caravan by a significant margin, and all the while its getting better gas mileage.
The FWD R/T might improve a bit, but the AWD is already FWD unless it needs the AWD, and 150 LB's matters, but you are fooling yourself if you think its going to suddenly open the car up to a whole new world just by 150 lb's...
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That commercial is pissing off "Fairies" everywhere!
Check this out!
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs...604060380/1148
HA! HA! Silly little Fairies!
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http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs...604060380/1148
HA! HA! Silly little Fairies!
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I'm sure it will wake up a bit once broken in, any car it like that, the difference before and after break in is minor though, it's not going to make the car much better, the difference of 150lbs would be more than that.
I mean seriously, but what is your problem, you're attacking me on my opinion that it is to slow of a car for me, even the R/T is slower than what I find enjoyable to drive and I don't feel safe driving a vehicle that can't accelerate up to speed to quick enough on the highway, we have some really really short on ramps here on highways with tractor trailers doing 65-70+ in the right lane, I want a car that can at least get up to the speed limit by the end of the ramps so I can merge saftely into highway traffic, from what I saw the Caliber can't, I love every thing else in the car, heck for 2/3 the price it has options I wish my magnum did, well the highway fuel economy is lacking too, 26mpg highway for a small 4 cylinder, I average 25-26mpg highway with my Magnum, fuel economy wouldn't stop me from buying it though.
The only real downside of the car is the powertrain choices are poor, well poor for the weight of the vehicle, if the R/T weight a more apropriate weight for it's size, say 2900 then the current drivetrain options would be perfect, unfortunatly dodge has been having this issue lately with bloated overweight cars, a comparable sized car, the Toyota matrix for example tops out at 2965 and is almost the exact same size, it's like they lead lined the Caliber, it's a simple matter of power to weight ratio, and except for the SRT the Caliber has a poor power to weight ratio, 19.01 lbs./hp for the R/T, from what i'de driven about the lowest that's acceptable to me performance wise was around where an SXT Magnum is which is 15.98 lbs/hp.
I mean seriously, but what is your problem, you're attacking me on my opinion that it is to slow of a car for me, even the R/T is slower than what I find enjoyable to drive and I don't feel safe driving a vehicle that can't accelerate up to speed to quick enough on the highway, we have some really really short on ramps here on highways with tractor trailers doing 65-70+ in the right lane, I want a car that can at least get up to the speed limit by the end of the ramps so I can merge saftely into highway traffic, from what I saw the Caliber can't, I love every thing else in the car, heck for 2/3 the price it has options I wish my magnum did, well the highway fuel economy is lacking too, 26mpg highway for a small 4 cylinder, I average 25-26mpg highway with my Magnum, fuel economy wouldn't stop me from buying it though.
The only real downside of the car is the powertrain choices are poor, well poor for the weight of the vehicle, if the R/T weight a more apropriate weight for it's size, say 2900 then the current drivetrain options would be perfect, unfortunatly dodge has been having this issue lately with bloated overweight cars, a comparable sized car, the Toyota matrix for example tops out at 2965 and is almost the exact same size, it's like they lead lined the Caliber, it's a simple matter of power to weight ratio, and except for the SRT the Caliber has a poor power to weight ratio, 19.01 lbs./hp for the R/T, from what i'de driven about the lowest that's acceptable to me performance wise was around where an SXT Magnum is which is 15.98 lbs/hp.
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I'm sure it will wake up a bit once broken in, any car it like that, the difference before and after break in is minor though, it's not going to make the car much better, the difference of 150lbs would be more than that.
I mean seriously, but what is your problem, you're attacking me on my opinion that it is to slow of a car for me, even the R/T is slower than what I find enjoyable to drive and I don't feel safe driving a vehicle that can't accelerate up to speed to quick enough on the highway, we have some really really short on ramps here on highways with tractor trailers doing 65-70+ in the right lane, I want a car that can at least get up to the speed limit by the end of the ramps so I can merge saftely into highway traffic, from what I saw the Caliber can't, I love every thing else in the car, heck for 2/3 the price it has options I wish my magnum did, well the highway fuel economy is lacking too, 26mpg highway for a small 4 cylinder, I average 25-26mpg highway with my Magnum, fuel economy wouldn't stop me from buying it though.
The only real downside of the car is the powertrain choices are poor, well poor for the weight of the vehicle, if the R/T weight a more apropriate weight for it's size, say 2900 then the current drivetrain options would be perfect, unfortunatly dodge has been having this issue lately with bloated overweight cars, a comparable sized car, the Toyota matrix for example tops out at 2965 and is almost the exact same size, it's like they lead lined the Caliber, it's a simple matter of power to weight ratio, and except for the SRT the Caliber has a poor power to weight ratio, 19.01 lbs./hp for the R/T, from what i'de driven about the lowest that's acceptable to me performance wise was around where an SXT Magnum is which is 15.98 lbs/hp.
I'm sure it will wake up a bit once broken in, any car it like that, the difference before and after break in is minor though, it's not going to make the car much better, the difference of 150lbs would be more than that.
I mean seriously, but what is your problem, you're attacking me on my opinion that it is to slow of a car for me, even the R/T is slower than what I find enjoyable to drive and I don't feel safe driving a vehicle that can't accelerate up to speed to quick enough on the highway, we have some really really short on ramps here on highways with tractor trailers doing 65-70+ in the right lane, I want a car that can at least get up to the speed limit by the end of the ramps so I can merge saftely into highway traffic, from what I saw the Caliber can't, I love every thing else in the car, heck for 2/3 the price it has options I wish my magnum did, well the highway fuel economy is lacking too, 26mpg highway for a small 4 cylinder, I average 25-26mpg highway with my Magnum, fuel economy wouldn't stop me from buying it though.
The only real downside of the car is the powertrain choices are poor, well poor for the weight of the vehicle, if the R/T weight a more apropriate weight for it's size, say 2900 then the current drivetrain options would be perfect, unfortunatly dodge has been having this issue lately with bloated overweight cars, a comparable sized car, the Toyota matrix for example tops out at 2965 and is almost the exact same size, it's like they lead lined the Caliber, it's a simple matter of power to weight ratio, and except for the SRT the Caliber has a poor power to weight ratio, 19.01 lbs./hp for the R/T, from what i'de driven about the lowest that's acceptable to me performance wise was around where an SXT Magnum is which is 15.98 lbs/hp.
This car could get you up to 80 on those onramps, you made this excuse before. When you get on any onramp, you usually start out doing about 20 MPH, I was able to, while driving back from Indiana, to get that car from about 15 MPH leaving one of those side of the highway rest-stops, which had its own really short on-ramp, up to 85 before even touching the expressway, by the time I was fully merged on the expressway I was doing over 90.
This was my first time testing the car and its actual accel, and if I can get up to 90 from 15 in less than a quarter mile, then you can merge onto any expressway and get it up to 65 or 70.
I will bet you all the money I have, hand you the keys to my Caliber, that I can get that car up beyond 65-70 when merging without even having to floor it. There are no ramps in this country that are that short, because what would people with old Escorts and that do.
I am saying you have a terrible impression of the performance of the car, and you are the one that compared its accel to a Caravan. Well my uncle has a caravan and I have driven in it many times, and this car would more than beat down a Caravan, or a Neon, or whatever.
I am not attacking you, but I do have a right to defend a vehicle when someone attacks it with highly incorrect information, which is what you are doing.
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The must have really long onramps where you live then because on those shorter ramps my Magnum RT can't even get to 80mph by the end of the ramp, some of them are so short that i'm just hitting 60mph, on the same ramp the Caliber would be maybe at 40mph, the problem is we have some old highways here with very short ramps, actualy we have highways where there are buisnesses off of the highway, as in pull out of the parking lot and you are in the right lane of the highway, no ramp of any sort, now granted we have logner ramps too that are fine, I can hit 100+ by the top with the Magnum no problem, it's the old short/non-existant ones that's an issue.
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The must have really long onramps where you live then because on those shorter ramps my Magnum RT can't even get to 80mph by the end of the ramp, some of them are so short that i'm just hitting 60mph, on the same ramp the Caliber would be maybe at 40mph, the problem is we have some old highways here with very short ramps, actualy we have highways where there are buisnesses off of the highway, as in pull out of the parking lot and you are in the right lane of the highway, no ramp of any sort, now granted we have logner ramps too that are fine, I can hit 100+ by the top with the Magnum no problem, it's the old short/non-existant ones that's an issue.
The must have really long onramps where you live then because on those shorter ramps my Magnum RT can't even get to 80mph by the end of the ramp, some of them are so short that i'm just hitting 60mph, on the same ramp the Caliber would be maybe at 40mph, the problem is we have some old highways here with very short ramps, actualy we have highways where there are buisnesses off of the highway, as in pull out of the parking lot and you are in the right lane of the highway, no ramp of any sort, now granted we have logner ramps too that are fine, I can hit 100+ by the top with the Magnum no problem, it's the old short/non-existant ones that's an issue.
And that is from a dead stop.
If your ramps are so short that you could not get a vehicle up to 40 from a start of 20 MPH, then those ramps must be just about straight down drops onto the expressway, because they could not be more than 50 feet long or so.
That sounds impossible to me, old or not. The 0-60 time that Car and Driver reported for the R/T is 8.5 seconds, which is on par with the Neon, so if the Neon can do it, I dont see why the Caliber cant.
I just really think you are over-exagerating if you are saying that you could not get the Caliber up to 60, I know, because as I said I ACTUALLY DRIVE ONE every single day, that I can get that car up to 60 from the time I round the corner at Telegraph and Ford Rd. to the time I get up to the Del Taco which is the first business you see once you round the corner, that I am doing 50. That car has no problem with accel and I think you are incorrect about its ability's.