3.8L oil disappearing??
Here are different ways of looking at how bad the issue is.
WELL over half the oil in my engine is gone between 3k mile oil changes!
Another way..... The safe zone on the oil dip stick is only 1 quart wide. If they do an oil change and fill up the oil to mid scale on the dip stick, you only can drive about 600 miles until you fall under the safe zone. What is the safe zone for if Dodge allows this?
Also.. please be careful...
The "check oil" light will only come on when you are about 3.5 quarts low. THAT is EXACTLY my experience while trying a to run an oil consumption test with Dodge... (I found this out early then confirmed it During my family road trip vacation where Dodge asked me to take hours out of my time and find a dealer to verify this). This is a folly also, I bet that Dodge adjusted the threshold not to alert drivers. I have had other respond that they have seen this also very low threshold also.
WELL over half the oil in my engine is gone between 3k mile oil changes!
Another way..... The safe zone on the oil dip stick is only 1 quart wide. If they do an oil change and fill up the oil to mid scale on the dip stick, you only can drive about 600 miles until you fall under the safe zone. What is the safe zone for if Dodge allows this?
Also.. please be careful...
The "check oil" light will only come on when you are about 3.5 quarts low. THAT is EXACTLY my experience while trying a to run an oil consumption test with Dodge... (I found this out early then confirmed it During my family road trip vacation where Dodge asked me to take hours out of my time and find a dealer to verify this). This is a folly also, I bet that Dodge adjusted the threshold not to alert drivers. I have had other respond that they have seen this also very low threshold also.
Just recently, my carpooler and his Volvo (2002 with over 223K miles) remarked his oil light warning light would flash on and then go back off. He was about 7K miles on his last oil change. This is now the second time (fist was at the end of his last oil change).
Just as I did previously, I suggested he check his oil level which (and per his account) was more than two quarts low again. I checked his service receipts (he does not do his own work) and stated clearly on both of the receipts that he was charged for 5 quarts of bulk oil PLUS there was a note that stated his engine's capacity was 5.8 liters. Right off the bat, his "oil change" started him one quart low to start and add the fact he never checks his oil level via the dipstick (I guess that is why they have the warning light?????? Argh!).
Assuming you have someone else doing your "oil change", I strongly suggest when you get home after you next change, find a very level parking area (if not inside your garage, a flat parking lot - shopping center?), wait 15 minutes (or at least 5) and properly check your oil level to verify it is at or very close to the full mark. If it is already low, then drive back to your service facility and ask them to check your level with you watching. It could be an honest mistake.
Or you are burning it.
Just as I did previously, I suggested he check his oil level which (and per his account) was more than two quarts low again. I checked his service receipts (he does not do his own work) and stated clearly on both of the receipts that he was charged for 5 quarts of bulk oil PLUS there was a note that stated his engine's capacity was 5.8 liters. Right off the bat, his "oil change" started him one quart low to start and add the fact he never checks his oil level via the dipstick (I guess that is why they have the warning light?????? Argh!).
Assuming you have someone else doing your "oil change", I strongly suggest when you get home after you next change, find a very level parking area (if not inside your garage, a flat parking lot - shopping center?), wait 15 minutes (or at least 5) and properly check your oil level to verify it is at or very close to the full mark. If it is already low, then drive back to your service facility and ask them to check your level with you watching. It could be an honest mistake.
Or you are burning it.
I would do my own oil change work, but Dodge will not let me.
I am stuck driving around with low oil because if I added any myself... the dodge dealer would have to "start the oil consumption test over".
They check the oil, add more, note the level, ask me to drive 1k miles, then repeat.
If I drive over 1k miles between visits, they claim the test is invalid and want to start over. I have been doing this for well over a year now, as I take a few trips and go over the 1k.
I think they are just trying to wear me down into not caring what is wrong with the engine and just adding oil every few weeks. Possibly a good strategy on their part, it must work with others and they don't have to fix anything or pay the costs.
Why is America loosing the new car battle... let me guess..
I am stuck driving around with low oil because if I added any myself... the dodge dealer would have to "start the oil consumption test over".
They check the oil, add more, note the level, ask me to drive 1k miles, then repeat.
If I drive over 1k miles between visits, they claim the test is invalid and want to start over. I have been doing this for well over a year now, as I take a few trips and go over the 1k.
I think they are just trying to wear me down into not caring what is wrong with the engine and just adding oil every few weeks. Possibly a good strategy on their part, it must work with others and they don't have to fix anything or pay the costs.
Why is America loosing the new car battle... let me guess..
After hearing "tick-tick-tick" sound one day, I checked dipstick and found I was 2 quarts low. Put 2 in and checked 90 miles later. Found that I was again 2 quarts low. Discussed this with several people and had my mechanic do a thorough check of everything. Couldn't find any evidence of leaking or consumption. Changed oil and filter and had no other low indication for about 10 days. About 100 miles after my last check, checked again and found to be 1/2 quart low.
Any ideas why I could have 2 quarts disappear in 90 miles or 1/2 quart disappear in 100 miles?
Any ideas why I could have 2 quarts disappear in 90 miles or 1/2 quart disappear in 100 miles?
Bought used, super clean 2007 grand caravan with 52k miles with 3.8L motor for my wife. Checked dipstick after 1500 miles and was 2+ qts low. Originally thought dealer never changed oil before purchase. Quickly changed oil with mobile 1 10w-20 synthetic. Was burning qt every 500-750 mile.
I read forums, replaced PCV valve(PITA), seafoam engine, oil and fuel treatment, switched to 5w-30 oil.
worked like a charm. No oil loss at 1200 miles
I read forums, replaced PCV valve(PITA), seafoam engine, oil and fuel treatment, switched to 5w-30 oil.
worked like a charm. No oil loss at 1200 miles
Ok, guys. I have tried the PVC replacement and everything else. I have found that if I use regular 10W40 (Castrol) along with the 6 cylinder Engine Restore from Wal-mart, my van use almost no oil between oil changes (3000). It makes oil changes a little more expensive but gives me peace of mind. Good luck.
Personally, I believe that an engine shouldn't burn or waste any oil unless there is an issue. Cars of the past didn't so, why is it ok for them today? Won't buy another Dodge with a policy like theirs...
Personally, I believe that an engine shouldn't burn or waste any oil unless there is an issue. Cars of the past didn't so, why is it ok for them today? Won't buy another Dodge with a policy like theirs...
The horrible Dodge "policy" is in-line with $100K Euro AMG and M car policies. They frequently inhale oil at a rate of 500mi/qt. They don't allow the use of thicker oils to reduce consumption because the bearing clearances are too tight to do that. Modern cars use very low tension rings to reduce cylinder wear, lower friction, improve ring life and increase efficiency. This can lead to greater oil consumption and blowby in some motors even though there's nothing wrong per se.
Hi everyone. I too had this problem. Oil was going somewhere in my 3.8, but I had no blue smoke, and the 2007 Grand Caravan had been maintained meticulously. Took it to my independent mechanic, who's treated me right for the last 20 years. He called some friends in the business, and told me the problem was probably in rear valve cover. He showed me the old valve cover, which had a hose connection right in the middle of it, and he said that they could see oil being drawn up the hose, and said that would probably explain it. I just had this done two days ago, so I will let you know whether or not this worked.


