I'm looking to put aftermarket aluminum wheels on my van.
I have found a set but they have 4 different bolt pattern specs, ex 5-100mm.
I do have 5 bolts but do not know the bolt pattern x mm.
Does anyone have an answer?
I cannot find anything on the web.
Please help!

 

I got this from these guys http://www.myboltpattern.com/bolt-pa...by-make-model/ :
2011 Dodge Grand Caravan


Bolt Pattern (in):
Bolt Pattern (mm):
Offset Range (mm):
Front Center Bore (mm):
Rear Center Bore (mm):
Stud_Size:


5x5.00
5x127
34 to 45
71.5
71.5
12x1.50

 

You found a set? I don't think so.


You need to buy wheels specifically designed for your van. The numbers and specs you are throwing around are a total waste of time.


There are too many differences between wheel, hub and brake packages to buy wheels just based upon offset or backspacing and bolt pattern. It would not be good to have a tire sidewall fail by a metal part rubbing or have the wheel fly off at 70mph because they aren't correct. The center bore won't be 70.5mm unless the wheel is made for your GC. If the centerbore is slightly oversize the wheel nuts will come loose and this is a recipe for a wreck. If the bore is undersized they won't even bolt on.


The add'l information provided above by mister sportvan still isn't adequate. There are other design variables like reverse mount design for brake caliper clearances, DOT specs, chamfer angle on nuts, load rating etc. The GC is heavy as heck and the wheels will bust and kill your family if you get some Asian knockoff designed for a 2500lb car. Your insurance company might not cover the accident if you have knockoff wheels that aren't designed for your 4500lb van.


I have seen wheels fail on a track and it ain't pretty.


The aftermarket carries DOT wheels designed for the 2008 and up vans. You select them based upon vehicle brand and type, not friggin bolt pattern lol. That sort of detail didn't even work in 1960.

 

Well, so much for taking my Grand Caravan to the track. There are considerations, but I'd be more concerned if he was looking to put 24" tires on. Like this guy:
I believe there are engineering standards when it relates to bore size, patterns, etc because it is a concern.

 

The cause of wheel failure is not a track or oversize diameter. It is improper fitment or rating. A large pothole can break a cheap knockoff wheel. There are engineering standards for countless specs, not just the few you mentioned. The lugnut chamfer angle is especially a concern, as is load rating. It is also good to ensure that the calipers fit because the van will not stop without them.


Here's an example of a 17" wheel made specifically for a Grand Caravan (5th generation) on sale today for $111 each:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DODGE-GRAND-CARAVAN-17-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-FACTORY-OEM-WHEEL-RIM-2335-/181084688343?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item2a297d0fd7&vxp=mtr



Buying aftermarket wheels is very risky unless:


1) they are specifically made for your application, and
2) they are not fake 3rd world knockoffs, and
3) they are truly DOT certified (not fake embossings)


PS: cheap wheels for multiple applications do not meet #1 and they often don't meet #2 or #3 either. Aluminum premium Grand Caravan wheels can be purchased for low as $120 each with the proper specs and design. It is also important to consider the TPMS system when swapping wheels. Once new sensors are "married" to your car, you must buy a $150 scanner/programmer to swap your old sensors back onto the vehicle. Some people don't realize this when buying a second set of wheels for winter use.

 

I believe you are incorrect on this item as I have replaced a TPMS sensor and it is learned by the Win module as stated below. :

"The WIN automatically learns and stores the sensor IDs while driving “within 20 minutes continuously
above 15 mph (24 km/h)” after a sensor has been replaced.
The learning sequence will initiate when the vehicle has been stopped for more than 20 minutes."

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/dodge-c...display-2.html

Thanks to Tizzy1

OH, on your number : 2) they are not fake 3rd world knockoffs ............ Better look inside your factory wheels "Made in China"

 

Well I disagree with both your points:

1) new replacement TPMS sensors will mate to WIN one-time only. What Tizzy said is true, of course, so the situation you describe (installing new sensor and auto-learn) is totally accurate. However upon mating 4 new TPMS sensors on winter wheels, you can not then reinstall your summer wheel in the spring with old sensors (previously mated to WIN) because the WIN will no longer recognize them. The system does not have Norton's go-back feature lol. Therefore the annual winter-summer wheel swap does not work like you think. Again, once a new TPMS sensor is mated to the WIN, it forgets the old TPMS code of the prior TPMS and it will NOT be reprogrammed automatically a second time. You are assuming things. A special scanner coding tool is needed to perform a bi-annual wheel swap. A tire shop or dealer can do it or you can buy the tool, as I mentioned earlier.

2) Made in China does not mean 3rd world knock-off. The Automobile manufacturers hold the Chinese wheel mfr to certain standards and this includes batch testing and QA/QC monitoring to ensure safety, quality and reputation. If they fail to do that their quality and reputation will suffer because most 3rd party suppliers will push the envelope to maximize profits. I am talking about non-OE wheels from various shady asian sources with totally fake DOT approvals sold on ebay and elsewhere. This is the garbage sold at cheap shops with universal fitment charts. Some of these wheels are made so cheaply they have 10 bolt holes or silly oval plugs or hub rings to fit multiple bolt circle apps. Some aren't even hub-centric!! The center hub assemblies are often very thin to allow all brake caliper configutations. Precious metal is removed which leads to weakness. There are also some OE-looking knock-offs being sold that may break when contacting a pothole, so buyer beware.

 

Lscman, I'm afraid you're wrong on Point 1 above. I rotate my rims between summer and winter rims and they "autolearn" per Gabby-Rudies post above. The Chrysler system has been like this for quite a while. I've swapped rims between a 2008 300 and a 2012 Challenger and the TPMS sensors adapted to the car.

 

Yes sir, I'm afraid I'm wrong too.


After scouring multiple forums and posts, I was unable to find anyone who actually swapped wheels or installed "used sensors" on a 5th gen that were previously mated to another vehicle. All I heard was horror stories about dealers and indy shops charging for reprogramming. All "auto-learning" procedures described in the Factory Service Manual (and those referenced by Gabby-Rudy & Tizzy) refer to the installation of new OE TPMS sensors which is surely not the case for seasonal wheel swaps.


You are the first person I've seen with first hand experience with swapping of used sensors in a 5th Gen. Your experience would likely apply to most, if not all Chrysler/Dodge with TPMS, remote fobik (no metal ignition key) and WIN ignition node. I am confident it would apply to all gc gen5.


Thanks for detailing your experience with swapping wheels in spring and fall and correcting my post.