OK, I understand a little better now what you're trying to say. I think one thing that folks forget sometimes is that these cars a heavy. The suspension on the Daytonas is, I believe from what others have said here, much better than the standard R/T's suspension. You could be experiencing what I've mentioned before - the damping units and springs are just plain wrong on the standard R/T, and when you gotter healed over in a tight turn, once the suspension gets loaded and past the initial stiffness, it tends to soften up and you lose that "secure" feeling. In other words, it's my experience that the suspension starts out stiff, then, as it compresses, it actually gets softer instead of more firm. I hope I'm making myself understood. So, if that's true, there are only 3 things you can do: Get a Daytona; get an SRT-8; or redo the suspension on a standard R/T, which is what I'm in the process of doing (hita snag yesterday - new springs didn't come in). The initial stiffness gives you a certain amount of good feel for the road, but once the suspension gets past that and starts getting softer, more body roll will come into play and thus, the car wants to, in my terminology, wallow. Hope this helps somel.

dave

 

I asked you once but you must have missed it. How much are these springs setting you back? Also is the road and track suspension the same as the Daytona? I really don't want one of those, I'm more of a sleeper guy.

 

I got my Charger R/T and drove it for days and it was unpredictable at times when you turned the wheel, you turned it nothing happend and then it turned! was kind of scary. I got a preasure gage and it said my tired were correct. Well I got another gage and mine were ten pounds shy. They are not supposed to be at 30lbs. If you look at the tire max preasure is 44lbs. Pump it up and the car gets much better at low speed turns 40 miles per hour or less. It handles ok at high speeds but can be a little boat like feeling 100+ and if your corner is banked wrong it can be scare with the body leaning so hard. I do not know if it is shocks or springs but they suck for real high speed driving. I would replace them with new sprins and shock about 1,000$ or go for a fully adjustable coilover kit that I do plan on buying. If you just cruise and stright line it I would not touch it unless you want it lowered... Just springs then and make sure your tired are at 42-44lbs that makes so much difference!!! I have the Goodyear Asurance tires and they are ok, I think better than the Conti's that were on the first Charger I bought.

 

Stroker - Sorry, I guess I missed that. The springs cost $328+ tax. Things got kind of messed up - I thought they were to arrive this past Tuesday, but now they're not due in until this Monday. It's been a while since I really looked into it, and it's been debated on here, but IMHO, unless they have changed this, the Road & Track Package gives a standard R/T the same suspension as a Daytona.

srteatr - While driving my Charger home after purchasing it (about a year ago last Thanksgiving), I noticed that the steering felt a little vague - I just could not keep it in a straight line on the freeway. It also seems to transmit every little expansion joint bump into the car. I too purchased a set of Goodyear Assurance and I think they are much, much better than the Contis that were on it. Ride improved some, and the road noise was reduced some. But the steering was still not improved. Turns out, as you can read in another post of mine, the toe was set IN. The original "specs" had the toe set in. NEW specs called for the toe to be set at zero. I had that done and boom! Car was much more stable and fun to drive on the freeway. I agree, max tire pressure is like 44 lbs or something, but the recommended tire pressure (see sticker on door or door post) is like 30. This is to give it a better ride. If you look at the recommended tire pressure of any car it will always be less than the max recommended pressure that is printed on the tire.

dave

dave

 

Srry I missed the 1st prt ,yea tire pressuer lite.Will tuner fix ESP ? No it wont theres a mod you can do for it .Ive taken off ramps at 60 without even pushin the front tire to make em squeal.sound like you think its a Nascar .LOL j/k

 

Ask the dealer to test drive a daytona or the R/T with road and track. You will notice a huge diffrence. I have an R/T with R&T and the car handles good even at high speeds.

 

Jeez .....Daves doubles as Peter Jenning in his spare time.

My eyes got tired reading that book! ha!

 

Sorry, guys. [X(] Guess I should have warned you . This is something I've been thinking about and trying to deal with since almost day one. Very soon, now, I hope to have my car back with the new springs, then we'll see if we're on the right track, or it its just a bunch of "snake oil". I do have confidence in the people running the company, though. But we'll see.

dave

That was shorter, huh? I'm tryin'.

 

Why didn't you go with the Eibach springs? You seem to have done some research is there a reason to avoid them?

 

( OK, this is going to be long, guys ) Yes, I did quite a bit of research before settling on the Pedders springs. What I discovered, and I don't know if this is right for everyone, is that the Eibachs, at least with the springs only and not the entire package that would include new damping units, were very stiff. They seem to be more for those looking for road race-type suspensions - you know, guys with Hondas and Toyotas. Also, according to their specs, it would lower the car more than what I wanted - almost 2 inches as opposed to about an inch. I found some "evidence" that, after a while, the Eibachs got softer, too. And, I was not able to get much information from the Eibach company itself.

On the other hand, I was able to talk directly to the president of the U.S. affiliate of Pedders (they are produced in Australia). He was very helpful, knowledgeable, and willing to bend over backwards to help. Pedders springs, from what I am told, are more of what I'm looking for - a more firm ride, but much, much better contol during compression of the suspension. They don't have now, but are supposed to have available at the time of this year's SEMA show, new damping units for the Charger/300C. I plan on looking into those as well when they are available.

H&R springs were another I considered. They seemed to be, like the Pedders springs, more of what I was looking for, but again, it appeared from their website, to lower the car more than what I wanted.

Hope this helps.

dave