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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Hey there folks, new to dodge forum. just got a 2010 dodge ram 1500 sport qc 4x4 last week and love the heck out of it. i already have 275/65/20 duratracs on the way as we speak and i know bilsteins are the way to go as of quality ride and achieving leveling the truck.
My question: has anyone used bilsteins for the rear shocks too. searching online last night i foud this kit http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-83...djustable.html and was thinkin they would work awesome. put the front at 2.75" and the rear at 1" and done. anyone done this yet?? also im sure the tires will clear without the leveling kit but can someone tell me for sure that they will? i have looked for hours at this site and have seen the setup im looking for but dont know if i have to do the leveling kit at the same time as tires. i know i'll need to do 2 alignments if i dont do level and tires at the same time. any comments would be appreciated!
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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I have used those on my previous ram and they were awesome. I will be adding them to my current ram soon.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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I have had the Cooper AT3 275/65/20 tires on my stock 09CC for about 25,000 miles now with no clearance issues. They fill up the wheel well nicely and the truck looks good.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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thanks for the replies guys. i really appreciate it. hopefully the tires get here tomorrow and i get to show her off once i get the shoes on!!
 
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2.75" up front is too much for the 4th Gen trucks. 2.25" is the most I'd go with a 4th Gen due to 4wd vibrations, cv angle/wear and plus the fitment itself is extremely tight/hard.
3rd gen guys who are at 2.5" and above have had numerous 4wd shakes and CV wear, plus they have clunking at lower speeds when going over inclines such as entering/exiting a small bump like a driveway. The a-arm contacts the spring and makes a clunk due to the harsh angle.

Beside's. You cannot get 2.75" out of the Bilsteins for your truck. That's the max they allow for other manufacturers such as Chevy..etc. They limit the Dodge trucks to 2.25" I believe for a good reason just as I explained above. So, you'll get 2.25" up front.
Also, the rear shocks "accomodate" up to a 1" lift. They do not "provide" any additional lift. Basically the shock length is longer so incase you have 1" blocks they will allow for that. They do not give you any additional lift over stock, so you'll need to buy blocks for that.
 

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good info to know dirtydog. i read some threads on the shakes with these trucks; hope i dont run into this. i think im gonna take your advice though and do 2.25" and put the bilsteins in both front and back (when i get some spare cash) since i do remember anything over 2.5 level kit could bring shakes. i hear its really hit or miss, some get them, some dont. my bro and buddy have bilsteins on their 08' chevy's and they love the heck out of em. thanks for your input!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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The Billy 5100's are a great shock and really popular on the Ram's!
Great info above too^
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtydog
2.75" up front is too much for the 4th Gen trucks. 2.25" is the most I'd go with a 4th Gen due to 4wd vibrations, cv angle/wear and plus the fitment itself is extremely tight/hard.
3rd gen guys who are at 2.5" and above have had numerous 4wd shakes and CV wear, plus they have clunking at lower speeds when going over inclines such as entering/exiting a small bump like a driveway. The a-arm contacts the spring and makes a clunk due to the harsh angle.

Beside's. You cannot get 2.75" out of the Bilsteins for your truck. That's the max they allow for other manufacturers such as Chevy..etc. They limit the Dodge trucks to 2.25" I believe for a good reason just as I explained above. So, you'll get 2.25" up front.
Also, the rear shocks "accomodate" up to a 1" lift. They do not "provide" any additional lift. Basically the shock length is longer so incase you have 1" blocks they will allow for that. They do not give you any additional lift over stock, so you'll need to buy blocks for that.
DirtyDog, I want to start off by saying that you are an extreme contributor to this site and that while I don't post much, I do research quite a bit and see how you have helped many people in many, many ways. I respect that. That being said, sometimes you just gotta leave the 4th gen stuff to us 4th gen guys! You might learn a thing or two.

To the OP; Yes, there are those of us that run the front and rear 5100's (myself included). By far one of the best upgrades you could do. They DO give you up to 2.8 in the front, and DD is correct, the rears simply accommodate a 1" lift in the rear rather than provide it. You'd have to go with a spacer rather than a block, as these are coil rear suspension. TopGun Customz is where most folks go for the spacer, and I cannot say anything bad about my experience with them. As far as CV wear/angles/vibration, it seems that it is inconsistent as far as which truck has issues and which doesn't. Some guys run them just fine, some have slight vibration in 4wd on dead-stop acceleration, and a few select guys have had to remove them altogether from tire wear issues. I'm one of the lucky few so far to not have any related issues (knock on wood), but take it with a grain of salt. You're much less likely to run into the issues if you set the Bilsteins to the 2.1 setting rather than 2.8, and honestly if you're only running 275/60R20's I'd just do the fronts at 2.1 and rear shocks if you feel like it. No spacer needed with that setup, and +1 rears will still fit. Hope I helped, and welcome to the forum.
 

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Originally Posted by J McWillis
DirtyDog, I want to start off by saying that you are an extreme contributor to this site and that while I don't post much, I do research quite a bit and see how you have helped many people in many, many ways. I respect that. That being said, sometimes you just gotta leave the 4th gen stuff to us 4th gen guys! You might learn a thing or two.

To the OP; Yes, there are those of us that run the front and rear 5100's (myself included). By far one of the best upgrades you could do. They DO give you up to 2.8 in the front, and DD is correct, the rears simply accommodate a 1" lift in the rear rather than provide it. You'd have to go with a spacer rather than a block, as these are coil rear suspension. TopGun Customz is where most folks go for the spacer, and I cannot say anything bad about my experience with them. As far as CV wear/angles/vibration, it seems that it is inconsistent as far as which truck has issues and which doesn't. Some guys run them just fine, some have slight vibration in 4wd on dead-stop acceleration, and a few select guys have had to remove them altogether from tire wear issues. I'm one of the lucky few so far to not have any related issues (knock on wood), but take it with a grain of salt. You're much less likely to run into the issues if you set the Bilsteins to the 2.1 setting rather than 2.8, and honestly if you're only running 275/60R20's I'd just do the fronts at 2.1 and rear shocks if you feel like it. No spacer needed with that setup, and +1 rears will still fit. Hope I helped, and welcome to the forum.
So I took a quick look and you are correct. I apologize.
http://performancelifts.com/cgi-bin/...5-F812-H0.html

Nice way of telling me I don't know btw...hahaha love it and appreciate it.

Bilstein has their ad that state's "UP TO" which was always more than they'd provide for the 3rd Genners. I do try to leave certain stuff alone in 4th Gen. I just know from experince the higher up you go on stock components the more problematic clunking on steep inclines and 4wd vibrations are. I have read the 4th Gen's cannot go as high in 4wd magazine's which is why I'm surprised Bilstein makes a 2.8 setting unless it's to keepup with the demand of the inexperienced end user?? dunno. just saying.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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..I'm surprised Bilstein makes a 2.8 setting unless it's to keepup with the demand of the inexperienced end user?? dunno. just saying.
That's a very strong possibility. Another theory of mine is that it's Bilstein's way of helping to correct the rake that some of the lower end lift kits have. It seems that some kits lift and level, while some kits only lift and leave the factory rake. It's a shame too, there's a lifted 2012 Sport at a local dealer with a 6" lift that still has the rake.. what a waste..
 
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