3.5 Engine Knocks - HELP!
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3.5 Engine Knocks - HELP!
I know this is the Intrepid forum, but I like this site and my 300M is similar enough to the Intrepid that I hope you'll forgive me for my question about my 3.5 motor:
Our son was driving our 2002 300m today, when he started to hear a "banging" sound and the check engine light started flashing. He drove it home (ya, I know) and parked it. I was able to pull a P0300 code (multiple misfire). I started the car for about 30 seconds and heard a horrendous banging sound coming from left cylinder bank. What was particularly interesting was that the sound seemed to occur intermittently - like something was going on every second or third firing sequence in one of the cylinders. The sound was similar to sharply rapping a hammer on metal, since it had a slight ringing tone to it. Though I could imagine (hope) that it was a serious case of detonation.
The car has 140k on it and has been well maintained (we're the original owners). I'm pretty much thinking that something in the valve train is shot. However, I'm still holding on to the thought of it being detonation. Any suggestions on how I might diagnose this issue?
Thanks in advance,
Larry
Our son was driving our 2002 300m today, when he started to hear a "banging" sound and the check engine light started flashing. He drove it home (ya, I know) and parked it. I was able to pull a P0300 code (multiple misfire). I started the car for about 30 seconds and heard a horrendous banging sound coming from left cylinder bank. What was particularly interesting was that the sound seemed to occur intermittently - like something was going on every second or third firing sequence in one of the cylinders. The sound was similar to sharply rapping a hammer on metal, since it had a slight ringing tone to it. Though I could imagine (hope) that it was a serious case of detonation.
The car has 140k on it and has been well maintained (we're the original owners). I'm pretty much thinking that something in the valve train is shot. However, I'm still holding on to the thought of it being detonation. Any suggestions on how I might diagnose this issue?
Thanks in advance,
Larry
#2
Diagnosis
Originally Posted by LESchwartz
Our son was driving our 2002 300m today, when he started to hear a "banging" sound and the check engine light started flashing. He drove it home (ya, I know) and parked it. I was able to pull a P0300 code (multiple misfire).
Originally Posted by LESchwartz
I started the car for about 30 seconds and heard a horrendous banging sound coming from left cylinder bank.
Originally Posted by LESchwartz
What was particularly interesting was that the sound seemed to occur intermittently - like something was going on every second or third firing sequence in one of the cylinders. The sound was similar to sharply rapping a hammer on metal, since it had a slight ringing tone to it. Though I could imagine (hope) that it was a serious case of detonation.
Larry
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Repair Questions
Now that the diagnosis is complete, onto the repair:
1) The rocker is obviously toast (see photo #1 below). Do you folks recommend replacing just the rocker, the whole rocker assembly, or both rocker assemblies?
2) One lobe on the camshaft looks a little chewed up (see photo #2 below). However, it doesn't look like the area where the roller rides is damaged. I really don't want to replace the cam. What do folks think about my just cleaning up the damaged lobe?
3) The head doesn't look like it too damaged (see photo #3 below). However the spark plug tube does seem dented, and there is some damage where it goes into the head. I really don't want to mess around with the head. What do folks think about just leaving it as is?
thanks again in advance,
Larry
1) The rocker is obviously toast (see photo #1 below). Do you folks recommend replacing just the rocker, the whole rocker assembly, or both rocker assemblies?
2) One lobe on the camshaft looks a little chewed up (see photo #2 below). However, it doesn't look like the area where the roller rides is damaged. I really don't want to replace the cam. What do folks think about my just cleaning up the damaged lobe?
3) The head doesn't look like it too damaged (see photo #3 below). However the spark plug tube does seem dented, and there is some damage where it goes into the head. I really don't want to mess around with the head. What do folks think about just leaving it as is?
thanks again in advance,
Larry