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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Yeah, you just said what I originally said. If you had read a little further into my post you would've noticed I said the Magnum cam was close to the Crane 12 with a duration of 11.75.

And they 95 cam was removed in 96 due to it being too aggressive. I know it was close to the Crane 10, I however did not say that because at the time it was not important. You were able for a time to buy the 95 cam as a Mopar performance cam.

Thanks for reitirating what I had already stated.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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The most common one that people get are the Crane 14.
Where the hell did you get this info. The #12 is far more common cause its actually streetable. If your building a full out race car then yes a #14 is something to consider.
It's more of a personal preference. I know quite a few guys who went with the Crane 14 over the Crane 12, and they drive their cars daily. I myself would go with the Crane 12.

For the most part you are right, 14 is great for NA, a 12 is more suited for Turbo and daily driving. But like I said, 90% of people I have met or talked to wnet with the 14 over the 12 on their daily drivers. Like I said, personal preference.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Well, I have lots of questions.

So, the Crane 12 lasts longer than the crane 14? It is more street? The crane 12 is similar to the Neon RT/ magnum's crane? Do the Crane cams and the Crane valve Springs last forever? The only thing that you have to replace after a period of time is the timing belt? About how many miles does the Crane 12 go until you have to replace the timing belt?

Does the Stock 2000 Dodge Neon ES Cam suck? About how much horsepower will the car gain if I put the cam and valve springs on?

What is a Titanium Retainer? What is the benefit?

The throttle body that is offered on Howell automotive is the 60mm for the 2000 Neon. You think I will loose torque If i put 60mm instead of 55mm throttle body. I have a pacesetter header and exhaust which is 2 1/2 diameter in size. So you remember, I have CAI and injectors and AFX underdrive pulley and some other little mods. I thought that would be a great combination of fuel flow.

If I put Accel spark plugs on by themselves will that help my performance? [X(]
 
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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NO, it's not a matter of the Crane 12 outlasting the Crane 14. It just has to do with the way the car will idle..more or less. The 14 is a much more meaner cam than the 12, it'll affect the way it idles. It'll give you more power. The 12 is considered more streetable because it's not as angry as teh 14 and has an idle more like stock.

Both are very good cams. It all depends on what you want to do with the car. 14 is easier to work with for naturally aspirated drag cars, 12 is great for boost of forced induction; turbo or nitros.

You need to decide on what direction you want to take with the car.

55mm TB flows 317 cfm
60mm TB flows 377 cfm

55MM is better for NA cars while the increased flow of the 60 is great for forced induction. However, that does not neccesarily mean you can't use the 60 on an NA car. You are going to lose some low end torque but gain top end.

A retainer basically holds the valve spring onto the valve. There is no real benefit to replacing the stock retainers unless they are bad or broken. At least as I see it, they really don't do anything for performance.

Aside from the spray pattern being different on the Accel injectors? No, I don't see them affecting performance that much if any.

Accel 19# injectors: LBS./HR Flow - 19, Static LBS./HR @2.7Bar or 39.2 Psi - 18.2, Static LBS./HR @3.0Bar or 43.5Psi. - 19.2, CC/Min. @ 3.0Bar 43.5Psi - 186, Impedance 14.4Ohms.
 
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