EMS lockout hub kit
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I am almost finished installing my EMS lockout kit on my '06 Dodge 2500. I wanted to post this to forewarn anyone thinking that they can just take this kit from the box and install. First, in order to do most of the work, you must have at least a 10-20 ton press for the bearing races and installing the studs. I know what you guys are thinking, its new stuff and I just pound them in with a 4 pound hammer. Think again! pressing in the bearing races is also something I have done in the past by slowly tapping them in with a socket or something until they bottom out. These bearing racesare so big (thats a good thing) that unless you work on semis regularly, doubtful you have a socket that big. Also, the outer stub shafts were too big to fit through the steering knuckle so I had to spend considerable time grinding them down to fit through the hole. Is the $350 dollar savings over the Dynatrac worth it? I'm not sure how much assembly is done for you with the Dynatrac, but I would guess so unless some assembly is done for you. I spent an extra $75 in machining costs I didn't plan on.
I am almost finished installing my EMS lockout kit on my '06 Dodge 2500. I wanted to post this to forewarn anyone thinking that they can just take this kit from the box and install. First, in order to do most of the work, you must have at least a 10-20 ton press for the bearing races and installing the studs. I know what you guys are thinking, its new stuff and I just pound them in with a 4 pound hammer. Think again! pressing in the bearing races is also something I have done in the past by slowly tapping them in with a socket or something until they bottom out. These bearing racesare so big (thats a good thing) that unless you work on semis regularly, doubtful you have a socket that big. Also, the outer stub shafts were too big to fit through the steering knuckle so I had to spend considerable time grinding them down to fit through the hole. Is the $350 dollar savings over the Dynatrac worth it? I'm not sure how much assembly is done for you with the Dynatrac, but I would guess so unless some assembly is done for you. I spent an extra $75 in machining costs I didn't plan on.
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Some of the assemblywas already done on my dyantracs.The races were already in. The studs weren't but they went in easily just tapping with a hammer. Luckily everything went on smoothly just asI had hoped.
Heyyour hubcaps didn't make it here yesterday. They should be here on monday butI won't be backhome from over the road until next friday again (I'm gone mon thru friday).I should have told you that when you called the first timeso you wouldn't have to wait another week sorry about that.
Btw I checked mine today to see and theholes on my hubcaps were bored out .060 over the hub diameterwhich gave them a nice .030 clearance gap between the hub and the cap.So if I bore yours .075 over that 4.392 diameterlike you wanted it'll give you a little bitmore clearance gap than mine it'll be a .0375 gap.I think mine are perfect to keep crud out but stilljust enough clearance. I think a tighter gap like mine would look a little better but I'll let you make that call since they're your capsso do you want.075 over or .060 ?
Also on the chamfer I'll puta45 degree chamfer on it if there's a enough room. There should be enough for maybe a small one at the very least. I know you told me there wasn't gonna be a lot of room once the hole was in there. I'll just have to see when it gets here. Ifit turns out there isenough room I'll cut the 45chamfer down to a depth of halfway whatever the thickness of the plastic is...
Heyyour hubcaps didn't make it here yesterday. They should be here on monday butI won't be backhome from over the road until next friday again (I'm gone mon thru friday).I should have told you that when you called the first timeso you wouldn't have to wait another week sorry about that.
Btw I checked mine today to see and theholes on my hubcaps were bored out .060 over the hub diameterwhich gave them a nice .030 clearance gap between the hub and the cap.So if I bore yours .075 over that 4.392 diameterlike you wanted it'll give you a little bitmore clearance gap than mine it'll be a .0375 gap.I think mine are perfect to keep crud out but stilljust enough clearance. I think a tighter gap like mine would look a little better but I'll let you make that call since they're your capsso do you want.075 over or .060 ?
Also on the chamfer I'll puta45 degree chamfer on it if there's a enough room. There should be enough for maybe a small one at the very least. I know you told me there wasn't gonna be a lot of room once the hole was in there. I'll just have to see when it gets here. Ifit turns out there isenough room I'll cut the 45chamfer down to a depth of halfway whatever the thickness of the plastic is...
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how about some pics of the install? are you planning on a diy writeup at all? also, I know they stick out quite a bit but can you post some pics of it... front/side etc... I'm considering the danatrac setup for my ram & current wheels and think it'll fit good with them...
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DieselJunky,
I think you have a better idea of keeping them a little tighter. Give me the clearance that you gave yours (0.060"). Don't worry about me waiting. I appreciate the help. Another week won't make a difference.
As for the EMS kit, I think that it was worth it, but could have been a little tighter in tolerances as well as some services like pressing in the races that could have been done easier at EMS. They were easy to work with and were responsive to questions when I had them. The hubs stick out a lot! It's no big deal to me, but you guys that are considering either one of these kits should be aware of that. I think the way the hubs are set up with the bearings so far from each other in Dana 60s, they had no choice but to have them that long.
I think you have a better idea of keeping them a little tighter. Give me the clearance that you gave yours (0.060"). Don't worry about me waiting. I appreciate the help. Another week won't make a difference.
As for the EMS kit, I think that it was worth it, but could have been a little tighter in tolerances as well as some services like pressing in the races that could have been done easier at EMS. They were easy to work with and were responsive to questions when I had them. The hubs stick out a lot! It's no big deal to me, but you guys that are considering either one of these kits should be aware of that. I think the way the hubs are set up with the bearings so far from each other in Dana 60s, they had no choice but to have them that long.