I did bench bleed the master, it made a big mess but no air was left in it. I then put it on the van and bled quite a bit more all the way around. (I use the wife, she has a sturdy leg)

Alloro mentioned the ABS valve could be bad. I guess I will look into it this weekend.

 

Yup I did.

 

So I keep replying to this but it shows up elsewhere.

Yes I did bleed the master as well as the entire system - several times.

 

I also took the van to a "Brake" guy and he said it stops just fine. I told him he's crazy because I know better. It used to stop way way better..... it's like it's not grabbing the fronts.

 

The problem is with the rears, the fronts are okay. If the rears were working and the fronts were not, you'd be skidding at almost every stop.

 

of course you have to ench bleed any new master cyl

 

Yes, the master was bench bled till no more bubbles came out. I then installed it on the van and bled the system with a helper over and over again (fronts and rears).

 

what are they doing?

 

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