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Old 11-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Van, 3.9 V6, 150k, Fresh valve job, uses no oil.

Problem: Throws codes: p0300, p0301, p0303, p0305. P0301 pops right away. Misfires at idle and under moderate load, seems almost normal at very light throttle, and under heavy throttle. Does not act like a spark miss. Spark plugs are very light, almost white. I tried replacing the #1 injector, had no effect. Of course I have done all the obvious, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, cam sensor, etc. I'm wondering if I have a fuel pressure issue. I replaced the fuel pump with a lo mile one I had a few thousand miles ago, when I noticed the pressure seemed on the low side (48psi, bouncy needle) I noticed last night that the pressure was only 45psi, so I swapped out the regulator with a spare I had (not new), and got 50psi with a very bouncy needle, from 45-55psi. Is this a defective regulator? Should the fuel pressure be very steady? I tried two different guages, they both show the same. Could this cause the misfiring? Thanks for any help you guys can provide.
 
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:02 PM
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I have the same problem except that for me it the #3 that misfires almost immediately. A couple of other people have also posted this problem. It's odd that everyone only has the problem with the drivers side (odd cylinders). I was considering the problem to be a cracked head, but since you're having the problem after a fresh valve job, I'm now thinking of ruling that out.

Did you have this problem before the valve job?
 
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:33 PM
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It misfired before the valve job, but on #2, 5, and 4. Those cylinders had badly worn valves. After the valve job it seemed fine till this problem cropped up. I've heard somewhere that when fuel pressure is iffy, #1, 3, and 5 misfire first, because they get the least fuel flow, due to the layout of the fuel rail.
 
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by guyonearth
I've heard somewhere that when fuel pressure is iffy, #1, 3, and 5 misfire first, because they get the least fuel flow, due to the layout of the fuel rail.
That's a new one on me. Not saying it isn't true, just that I haven't heard it before. I thought the fuel pressure regulator was built into the fuel pumps on these vans. Where was the regulator located that you swapped out?
 
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:27 AM
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The regulator is at the top of the fuel pump. It is removable and available as a separate part. I have a port in the vehicle floor for access, a trick learned years ago dealing with fuel pumps in vans.
 


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