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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Well guys I just bought a 1985 b350 van to use as a work truck. I only paid 800 dollars for it. Its got quite a bit of mileage on it. I dont know how well it has been maintained, or anything like that. Ive only had it for two days.

It has a few problems. The first one is that it is VERY hard to start when its cold and after it has cooled down. When you get it running, it will start up fine. Another one is that one of the windsheild wipers wont move.

Where should I start with the maintenance?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Hmm a '65...I wonder has the OD been flipped 2, 3, 4 or maybe even 5 times. My 87 is still 8K shy of the 200K mark.

The hard cold weather starting seems to be sorta normal. If you look though some of the posts already on the board you can try some of those solutions. You may already have a manual choke, so not using that right can cause more problems. You dont mention if you have the large or the small block V8 (I've never heard of a V6 in a B350 chassis). Though most of my knowledge is from 80's era vans. The location of the Distributor cap would help tell what engine you have (front, back, middle).

Stev's previous comments about having the coil checked may be a good place to start, and that check is free some places

The Wiper is possibly easier, though I'm not sure if that is the case in the winter. You don't say which wiper is not working, though if I had to (and at this point I do) guess I'd say the drivers side is out. Either way there is a link rod from one wiper arm to the other under the cowl I'm betting it has either slipped off or a bushing holding it has broken. The motor is on the passenger side of the engine compartment. Since one wiper works the link is probably the issue instead of the motor.

I'm not sure how much of a wrencher you are, but I'd suggest checking out the Haynes manual #30065 or try to get a service manual out of Dodge for your van. The Haynes manual only goes back to 71 but even if the part isn't exact, you will get some idea how to test or remove whatever part. and as far as the electrical systems are concerned, the older it is, the less wires it uses YAY Simplicity!

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Hmm a '65...I wonder has the OD been flipped 2, 3, 4 or maybe even 5 times. My 87 is still 8K shy of the 200K mark.

The hard cold weather starting seems to be sorta normal. If you look though some of the posts already on the board you can try some of those solutions. You may already have a manual choke, so not using that right can cause more problems. You dont mention if you have the large or the small block V8 (I've never heard of a V6 in a B350 chassis). Though most of my knowledge is from 80's era vans. The location of the Distributor cap would help tell what engine you have (front, back, middle).

Stev's previous comments about having the coil checked may be a good place to start, and that check is free some places

The Wiper is possibly easier, though I'm not sure if that is the case in the winter. You don't say which wiper is not working, though if I had to (and at this point I do) guess I'd say the drivers side is out. Either way there is a link rod from one wiper arm to the other under the cowl I'm betting it has either slipped off or a bushing holding it has broken. The motor is on the passenger side of the engine compartment. Since one wiper works the link is probably the issue instead of the motor.

I'm not sure how much of a wrencher you are, but I'd suggest checking out the Haynes manual #30065 or try to get a service manual out of Dodge for your van. The Haynes manual only goes back to 71 but even if the part isn't exact, you will get some idea how to test or remove whatever part. and as far as the electrical systems are concerned, the older it is, the less wires it uses YAY Simplicity!

Good Luck
Ok sorry about that. I made an error in my post I said I bought a 1965 but it really is a 1985.

I bought it from this guy. and IT ran great and started up great while test driving, but after he left it would not start up it took like 5 minutes of cranking and I have to hold down the gas pedal if I want to start it when Its cold. It starts like a champ when its warm though.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Your first order of business is to make sure the choke is adjusted and operating properly. If it's not, nothing you do will make any difference.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Your first order of business is to make sure the choke is adjusted and operating properly. If it's not, nothing you do will make any difference.
how do I adjust the choke on it?

I'm not too familiar with these old dodge vans sorry.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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I'm not too familiar with these old dodge vans sorry.
Then your best bet is to spend the $17 and pick up a Haynes manual from your local auto parts store. All of the specs. and procedures are in there.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Ahh, 85 that is something I can understand, and yeah it sounds like Choke, you can try almost flooding it before you start it (pump the pedal 5-6 times, start and when it catches start feathering the pedal to keep the revs up and prevent it from stalling). The other thing I did, though it isn't absolutely necessary, is to replace the mechanical fuel pump with an electric one. I don't know why, but I seem to have horrible luck with them failing in both of my vans and It didn't matter what parts store I got it from.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks for the advice, Igadget.

Im going to get a haynes or chilton manual for it next month. Ive replaces the plugs, plug wires, distributor cap an rotor, and ive messed with the choke a bit, but its still pretty hard to start in the morning. After you start it up in the morning its usually good for the rest of the day. I havent changed the oil yet. And a mechanic told me not to flush the tranny because its slipping a bit and that will only make it worse.

Any other advice?

EDIT - Maybe im adjusting the choke wrong? the only difference I see when I adjust the choke is that the butterfly plate opens a bit. With it fully open it still has trouble starting on cold mornings. All ive adjusted it the little thing on the side of the carb where if you loosen the three screws, you can rotate the plastic housing that contains some kind of wind up spring which moves the butterfly plate. Is there somthing else that needs adjusting?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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With it fully open it still has trouble starting on cold mornings.
The butterfly is supposed to be closed when cold, open about 1/8" right after starting cold, and fully open when warm/hot. The little thing on the side of the carb where you loosen the three screws and has a wound spring inside is the adjustment for how fast the choke opens as it warms up. Too much tension and it opens too slow causing the engine to load up and run rich, too loose and it opens too fast causing stalling until full engine warm up.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Hmmm so it has to be just right?

I maunually closed the choke with my finger and tried starting it, and it still had problems to start. Once it started it acte like it was gasping for air, and died. When open it runs okay. Hmm. Im thinking about fabricating a manual choke wire for it.

Are there any other issues that would prevent it from running crappy in the cold but perfectly fine when warm? I havenbt changed the oil yet, Im gonna do that this weekend. I am going to get the ignition coil tested.

Are there any other things that I should look for?
 
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