a stock 345 and my torque from 400 to a stock 375, and I will still bet money that I beat the Titan. The lightest version of the 4.7 could still hang with the Titan (which I own and have been looking for a Titan). Titan owners shouldn't even think about the SRT Ram, but then again, it beats cars such as the BMW M3, Subaru WRX 2.5 STi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, and most importantly, the Ford Lightning, it even beats the Ford Lightning with 650lbs of weight in the bet, but the SRT is intended for

As does my father who strange enough works at warren truck assembly where they build.... you guessed it dodge trucks, rams and dakotas. They are also built in St. Loius and yes in mexico. But mexico builds 12 per hour while I believe St Louis is about 40 per hour and warren builds 65-80 per hour. So I wonder where most of the dodges come from. Also nissan has what one or two plants here, and they are just assy plants, no stamping or powertrain. And ask them where ALL of there suppliers are, you guessed it again JAPAN. No chrysler isn't perfect, they build a few things in mexico that does not make me happy, but you have to pick the lesser of the two evils. Sorry foreign makes don't cut it my book. How would you like it if you knew you were getting put out of work because flag flying Americans were too stupid to relize that if you keep buying foriegn products we lose jobs? Well let me tell you it gets very unnerving. Why do you think they are putting up plants over here? So they can fool us into thinking, well it is made here. But what you are forgetting is that you are not only putting the big 3 worker out of a job, but all the supply chains in between. Nissan just as American as Chrysler? Now that is rich, they have what 5000 or so employees we have 125000 in the states alone. You also seem to forget the Chrysler group is still based out of Auburn Hills Mich. Yes I'm sure some gets back to Germany, but once again its one of those better of two evils.