Deisel or Hemi
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what a loaded question !!!!!
"Deisel or Hemi "
more like "whick hooker?"
they all eat fuel. hemis have 40% MORE parts than a cummins.
hemi cummins
spark plugs x
plug wires x
ignition coil (s) x
distributor x
oil change 3000 7500
engine oil cap 5 qts12qts
fuel costgas avg 10 - 20 cents higher than diesel
mpg 12 - 16estimated14 - 21 estimated
trans standard duty hvy dty
tires 6 - 10 ply 10 ply
rear axlestandard hvy dty
front axle 3k rated 5k rated
diesel have oil changes 1/2 - 1/3 less oftenthan gas.
cummins power trains are super duty compared to a gasser
I could go on, but the base truck is the same.
choose the path thatfits you best.
"Deisel or Hemi "
more like "whick hooker?"
they all eat fuel. hemis have 40% MORE parts than a cummins.
hemi cummins
spark plugs x
plug wires x
ignition coil (s) x
distributor x
oil change 3000 7500
engine oil cap 5 qts12qts
fuel costgas avg 10 - 20 cents higher than diesel
mpg 12 - 16estimated14 - 21 estimated
trans standard duty hvy dty
tires 6 - 10 ply 10 ply
rear axlestandard hvy dty
front axle 3k rated 5k rated
diesel have oil changes 1/2 - 1/3 less oftenthan gas.
cummins power trains are super duty compared to a gasser
I could go on, but the base truck is the same.
choose the path thatfits you best.
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RE: Deisel or Hemi
I'm not the best at buying vehicles by any stretch. However, I bought my 2005 Dodge 3500 4x4 short bed, quad cab, single rear wheel Laramie with the Cummins Turbo Diesel for 36,000 brand new as the 2006 models were rolling out. The ONLY option it didn't have on it was the side curtain air bags, and the 4.10 gears. The sticker was about 52,000.
Maybe no one wanted the ugly tan color at the time... Seems rather popular now.
Maybe no one wanted the ugly tan color at the time... Seems rather popular now.
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RE: Deisel or Hemi
ORIGINAL: RumbleBeeRam
My dad owns a 3500 1T Diesel Dually. He owned it for a year stock, and now hes got propane, chips (Banx 6 gun set w exhaust and intake) And tranny mods. And to round it out, a B1 Bomber Turbo. The thing will do 13 secs in a 1/4 mile, and yeah, its faster than my hemi (Shut up!) However, its cost him well over 75000 to get into the 13s. Granted he can tow anything (Whereas say a 75000 dollar srt-10 is same speed but cant tow anything) Now, if your looking for a truck thats fast, obviously, diesel is a messed up way of going about it, but its possible. IF your looking to tow and haul, A LOT (not like "Well it would be nice to tow the uhaul and if I get a load of gravel or some cement walkway stones for hte yard") because if your not towing quite often (like my dad does... 5000 lbs of water in the box twice a week, plus he owns a campground so hes always moving seasonals, hes got boats and campers of his own as well) They are less fun, sure they got 600 lb of tq but its a whole lotta fun thats over at a whopping 3200 RPMs. Yeah, he saves gas (Even with all the mods) but, hes not going to make that money back very quickly at all.
Now if you want a sport truck, or an offroader, either one your better off with a gas. For one, the hemi is way faster stock, and soon (hopefully) there will be mods. The 5000 dollar difference in price for the diesel (not including stepping up to the 2500 from the 1500) will buy you a supercharger when one comes available. The hemi is a lot lighter, which is good for speed, as well for offroading ability. Its a lot of weight to stop, that cummins weighs a TON! And its not nice to have all that weight bouncing around when your 4x4in. And I had a 3/4 T 4x4 that I 4x4d with. More than once I would bounce off something and damn near sink nose first because of all that weight.
Tell everyone here what it is that your planning to do 4 days of the week with the truck, and what you plan to do with it 10 months out of the year. If towing isnt SIGNIFICANTLY high in there, I would go with the hemi myself, thats why I went from a 3/4 T down to the hemi half.
Another sidenote, I hear that its not what diesels are meant for when it comes to city driving, its harder on the transmissions, and the engine (will still last for a long time though) Because diesels are meant to run at a relatively steady RPM for looong periods of time. Meaning grab the trailer and head 900 miles on a straight highway. And since the diesel has so much tq hitting those gears each time. Shifting 400 times on your way to the gas station, is a lot of wear and tear on a diesel.
-adam
My dad owns a 3500 1T Diesel Dually. He owned it for a year stock, and now hes got propane, chips (Banx 6 gun set w exhaust and intake) And tranny mods. And to round it out, a B1 Bomber Turbo. The thing will do 13 secs in a 1/4 mile, and yeah, its faster than my hemi (Shut up!) However, its cost him well over 75000 to get into the 13s. Granted he can tow anything (Whereas say a 75000 dollar srt-10 is same speed but cant tow anything) Now, if your looking for a truck thats fast, obviously, diesel is a messed up way of going about it, but its possible. IF your looking to tow and haul, A LOT (not like "Well it would be nice to tow the uhaul and if I get a load of gravel or some cement walkway stones for hte yard") because if your not towing quite often (like my dad does... 5000 lbs of water in the box twice a week, plus he owns a campground so hes always moving seasonals, hes got boats and campers of his own as well) They are less fun, sure they got 600 lb of tq but its a whole lotta fun thats over at a whopping 3200 RPMs. Yeah, he saves gas (Even with all the mods) but, hes not going to make that money back very quickly at all.
Now if you want a sport truck, or an offroader, either one your better off with a gas. For one, the hemi is way faster stock, and soon (hopefully) there will be mods. The 5000 dollar difference in price for the diesel (not including stepping up to the 2500 from the 1500) will buy you a supercharger when one comes available. The hemi is a lot lighter, which is good for speed, as well for offroading ability. Its a lot of weight to stop, that cummins weighs a TON! And its not nice to have all that weight bouncing around when your 4x4in. And I had a 3/4 T 4x4 that I 4x4d with. More than once I would bounce off something and damn near sink nose first because of all that weight.
Tell everyone here what it is that your planning to do 4 days of the week with the truck, and what you plan to do with it 10 months out of the year. If towing isnt SIGNIFICANTLY high in there, I would go with the hemi myself, thats why I went from a 3/4 T down to the hemi half.
Another sidenote, I hear that its not what diesels are meant for when it comes to city driving, its harder on the transmissions, and the engine (will still last for a long time though) Because diesels are meant to run at a relatively steady RPM for looong periods of time. Meaning grab the trailer and head 900 miles on a straight highway. And since the diesel has so much tq hitting those gears each time. Shifting 400 times on your way to the gas station, is a lot of wear and tear on a diesel.
-adam
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Wow 10K on a brand new 6.7L. that's a lucky man right there.
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I just bought my truck with the $3500 factory rebate, $5500 dealer discount, $1000 loyalty cash back and the $1000 militrary appreciation savings. MSRP was $46K. Look for the deals, but the rebate and dealer discounts are pretty good right now.
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I want a diesel also. All the guys at work get 18-23mpg with there cummins and I'm stuck at 16.0 with the old 5.2L. Not only that butI will be keeping my next truck for a very long time. I want the reliablilitly of a diesel. I don't really need one for towing or anything but who cares. I'm sure by the time I get a new one Dodge will have a diesel in a half ton. Motor Trend says that Ford and Dodge have bumped up their redesigns because of the success of the Tundra and Sierra/Silverado.
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I want a diesel also. All the guys at work get 18-23mpg with there cummins and I'm stuck at 16.0 with the old 5.2L. Not only that butI will be keeping my next truck for a very long time. I want the reliablilitly of a diesel. I don't really need one for towing or anything but who cares. I'm sure by the time I get a new one Dodge will have a diesel in a half ton. Motor Trend says that Ford and Dodge have bumped up their redesigns because of the success of the Tundra and Sierra/Silverado.
I want a diesel also. All the guys at work get 18-23mpg with there cummins and I'm stuck at 16.0 with the old 5.2L. Not only that butI will be keeping my next truck for a very long time. I want the reliablilitly of a diesel. I don't really need one for towing or anything but who cares. I'm sure by the time I get a new one Dodge will have a diesel in a half ton. Motor Trend says that Ford and Dodge have bumped up their redesigns because of the success of the Tundra and Sierra/Silverado.