How many Stealth owners do we
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How many Stealth owners do we
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1993 Stealth R/T Turbo, Viper Black with twin white stripes.</P>
Apexi AVC-R/Blitz turbo timer/Magnecor wires/Sumitomo tires/K&N FIPK/completely disintegrated exhaust, no mufflers <IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">...</P>
Question is...how many of you Stealth/3000GT owners are coming to the Tenth Annual East Coast Gathering, in Ocean City, MD? It's in May.</P>
I started it with 4 cars, then 9, then 33, then...after that, Eric Bowden took over, and has it ever exponentiated! <IMG src=smileys/smiley32.gif border="0"></P>
Just bought a Borla, having it put on next week if Ican find someone local to do it! I want to find a stainless steel header/downpipe that will bolt right up to the Borla and the turbos. Any suggestions? </P>
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How many Stealth owners do we
Originally Posted by Speed Factor
I'll definitely be at the ECG <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"> Hell, i won best of show runner up last year and the year before that, so i'll definitely be there.
I remember your car! You had the one that was a NA to TT conversion? UNbelievable. And I think it was one of the cars that drew THE most attention.</P>
Mine's getting a little roadworn, although I'm putting some work into her now. Lots of stone chips, little stuff. Mine isn't a contender for any kind of award, but it's been at every Gathering since 1997, and my previous Stealth was at every Gathering from the very first one (in 1994?) I think...I SHOULD know! <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"></P>
Until I sold it, and then the new owners brought it to the next Gathering, which was very cool. </P>
There were two of the 1st Gen Stealth TT models with white stripes. Mine has a little wider stripes. </P>
Maybe you can give me some advice....it sounded like the clutch was slipping a couple weeks ago, I took it to a transmission shop, and they replaced the clutch. And it is STILL slipping! I had Altered Atmosphere replace the transmission a couple years ago and put in a Centerforce clutch...the tranny shop put in a stock LUK clutch.</P>
They are saying, maybe it is the transmission, but AA says that a 5-spd tranny will not "slip" it will just make horrible crashing noises and there's no "slipping" about it. They think it's the clutch...perhaps not installed correctly. I was reading on Stealth316.com that if the flywheel is not "two-stepped" then it will defintely slip. So here I am, out over $1k, and still slipping. Can it be the tranny? Or does it definitely sound like the clutch just needs fixing (again!). It feels like a farm truck pulling a load of bricks, out of 1st and 2nd.</P>
What do you think about it?</P>
Thanks!</P>
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How many Stealth owners do we
Originally Posted by 93StealthTT
Originally Posted by Speed Factor
I'll definitely be at the ECG <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"> Hell, i won best of show runner up last year and the year before that, so i'll definitely be there.
I remember your car! You had the one that was a NA to TT conversion? UNbelievable. And I think it was one of the cars that drew THE most attention.</P>
Mine's getting a little roadworn, although I'm putting some work into her now. Lots of stone chips, little stuff. Mine isn't a contender for any kind of award, but it's been at every Gathering since 1997, and my previous Stealth was at every Gathering from the very first one (in 1994?) I think...I SHOULD know! <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"></P>
Until I sold it, and then the new owners brought it to the next Gathering, which was very cool. </P>
There were two of the 1st Gen Stealth TT models with white stripes. Mine has a little wider stripes. </P>
Maybe you can give me some advice....it sounded like the clutch was slipping a couple weeks ago, I took it to a transmission shop, and they replaced the clutch. And it is STILL slipping! I had Altered Atmosphere replace the transmission a couple years ago and put in a Centerforce clutch...the tranny shop put in a stock LUK clutch.</P>
They are saying, maybe it is the transmission, but AA says that a 5-spd tranny will not "slip" it will just make horrible crashing noises and there's no "slipping" about it. They think it's the clutch...perhaps not installed correctly. I was reading on Stealth316.com that if the flywheel is not "two-stepped" then it will defintely slip. So here I am, out over $1k, and still slipping. Can it be the tranny? Or does it definitely sound like the clutch just needs fixing (again!). It feels like a farm truck pulling a load of bricks, out of 1st and 2nd.</P>
What do you think about it?</P>
Thanks!</P>
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But anyway, give me a call at the shop. 215-332-4900, just ask for Ty <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"> Thats me</P>
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[QUOTE=Speed Factor][QUOTE=93StealthTT]
[ Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch? That could be it.</P>
They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!</P>
I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up. </P>
He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning. </P>
But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.</P>
My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?</P>
He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.</P>
>Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza?</P>
No, it's stock.</P>
>Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!!</P>
That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.</P>
If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?</P>
He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.</P>
But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again! <IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"></P>
I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it! </P>
Thanks again,</P>
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Scopata Fuori</P>
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[ Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch? That could be it.</P>
They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!</P>
I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up. </P>
He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning. </P>
But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.</P>
My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?</P>
He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.</P>
>Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza?</P>
No, it's stock.</P>
>Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!!</P>
That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.</P>
If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?</P>
He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.</P>
But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again! <IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"></P>
I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it! </P>
Thanks again,</P>
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Scopata Fuori</P>
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[QUOTE=93StealthTT][QUOTE=Speed Factor]
[ Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch? That could be it.</P>
They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!</P>
I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up. </P>
He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning. </P>
But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.</P>
My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?</P>
He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.</P>
>Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza?</P>
No, it's stock.</P>
>Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!!</P>
That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.</P>
If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?</P>
He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.</P>
But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again! <IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"></P>
I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it! </P>
Thanks again,</P>
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Scopata Fuori</P>
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That's bull. Its definitely not the transfer case or the shaft. If the T/C was going bad, it wouldn't slip, all 4 wheels would just lock up. If the clutch is slipping, its one of only 4 things. </P>
1. Bad clutch</P>
2. Bad Flywheel</P>
3. Rear main seal is leaking, thus getting oil on the Clutch, making it slip.</P>
4. Input shaft seal is leaking, cause the same affect as the rear main seal.</P>
Its one of those 4 things, but you can tell them its definitely not the transfer case.</P>
Originally Posted by 93StealthTT
[ Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch? That could be it.</P>
They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!</P>
I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up. </P>
He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning. </P>
But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.</P>
My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?</P>
He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.</P>
>Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza?</P>
No, it's stock.</P>
>Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!!</P>
That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.</P>
If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?</P>
He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.</P>
But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again! <IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"></P>
I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it! </P>
Thanks again,</P>
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Scopata Fuori</P>
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1. Bad clutch</P>
2. Bad Flywheel</P>
3. Rear main seal is leaking, thus getting oil on the Clutch, making it slip.</P>
4. Input shaft seal is leaking, cause the same affect as the rear main seal.</P>
Its one of those 4 things, but you can tell them its definitely not the transfer case.</P>
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RE: How many Stealth owners do we
Hey sup everyone I got a 1991 stealth R/T twin turbo i have raced alot of carz with it had my share of problems check engine cause of an o2 sensor.. but it seems to be running good now its being stored for the winter because i live in michigan...i just got it back right before the first snowfall..it was in tha body shop being fixxed because during the blackout a exsploer pulled infront of me and I did everything i could not to hit him but i was doin 30mph and i hate less than a sec to react so i hit him...it pealed back the hold right side fender which my friend was in tha car with me and it pushed it so far back his door would not open...after a few months i had it back not running all that great so i took it back and my abs light was on and they did not know why and some other problems with the paint job but otherwise its doing good i just got some botsche 4 spark spark plugs for it i hope they make it run better...i am thinkin of replacing the tail wing on it with a much better looking one...let me know if u have any good cheap modz i can put on it...+ i have been hearing of how i can add 20h/p by removing a plastic insurt from tha boost control solinoid and i was wounding before i did so if anyone i has tryied or heard of that any replies about that will b good...thanks
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RE: How many Stealth owners do we
Welcome! Sounds like you got a great car. I always wanted a Stealth R/T TT, but the price kinda kept me from getting one. Being that it's a '91 I thought that I would inform you that they were recalled for leaky transfer cases causing bearing damage and the plastic seat belt release buttons can break into peices causing seat belt failure.