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Old 07-24-2006, 07:16 PM
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Will a 94 SOHC transmission work in another 93-99 model dohc auto trans car???
 
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Ok this may help you a little. The 1990-1993 cars had the same motor when it came to double overhead cam. June of 1993 brought a change in the crank shaft used which was a change to a hardened crank and four bolt mains. The transmission is another thing the auto trans might be the same and the stick manual is diffrent. The question is the block of the SOHC and DOHC motor are they the same I am not sure but they may be I will try and find out.
 
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OK HERE YA GO READ THIS>

History

The Ultradrive was a significant technological advancement in transmission operation, as it was one of the first electronically-controlled automatics. It pioneered many now-common features, such as adaptive shifting: the computer would optimize shifting based on the driving style of the operator. Unfortunately it earned a reputation for being unreliable, especially in Chrysler's minivans, which had high failure rates. A misprint in both owner's manuals and transmission fluid dipsticks in early models advocated the use of Dexron II transmission fluid in the event the required fluid (Type 7176, also known as ATF+3) was not available. Dexron does not provide the necessary fluid properties for proper operation of the transmission, often resulting in malfunction (commonly deferring the computer into the notorious "limp-home" mode, under which the transmission will not shift beyond second gear) or complete failure of the unit. As a result, the older hydraulically-controlled 3-speed automatic was later made available on vehicles equipped with Mitsubishi's 6G72 V6 engine, which was usually paired with the Ultradrive during its first few years.

On paper, the A604 was a great innovation. When working correctly, it will shift smoothly and perfectly, thus providing a soft, comfortable ride often associated with high-end luxury cars. The transmission, being so electronic, also lacks bands to adjust.

The torque converter measured 9.5 inches in diameter and was mounted to the flywheel by a flexible drive plate. The transaxle was cooled through an oil-to-water heat exchanger in the collector tank on the radiator, and/or a standard oil-to-air heat exchanger.

The Ultradrive has evolved dramatically over its long years of production. Countless changes, both electrical and mechanical have been made in an attempt to improve the reliability of the A604. Such changes include different valve bodies, solenoid packs, sensors, etc. One of the better improvements was the introduction of a flash-programmable TCM, which monitors the operator's driving habits, and sets up a custom shifting pattern for the driver.

The A604/41TE transmission also uses 20 fewer parts than its 3-speed siblings.

Mitsubishi's Sportronic transmission was a modified version of the 41TE.
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Technical information

There are 4 different types of units. The differences between the types are the bell housing bolt pattern and valve body assemblies. The first type was used for the 2.5 L engine, second type for the 6G72 V6, third type for the 3.3 L and 3.8 L V6s and the fourth type for the 2.0 L and 2.4 L engines.
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A604 to 41TE

The most common problems with early A604 transmissions are poor shifting quality and sudden locks into second gear ("limp-home" mode), even during highway driving. Between January 1989 and July 1991, Chrysler tried 28 different changes to deal with A604 problems according to Chrysler's reference guide, "History of the A-604 Transaxle." Nine design changes were made in an attempt to fix clutch failure, and four were directed to "shift busyness", or excessive shifting on hills.

Between January 1989 and July 1991, Chrysler tried 28 different changes to deal with Ultradrive problems. In 1991, after much pressure from the Center for Auto Safety, Consumer Reports and others, Chrysler promised to waive the $100 deductable in the warranty, provide loaners, and buy back any cars with Ultradrives that could not be fixed. Chrysler ran an unprecedented campaign to contact all owners of cars with Ultradrives to find and fix problems.

In 1992, Chrysler renamed the A604 as the 41TE transmission. Technical service bulletins after this date refer to the A604 as the 41TE even though the bulletin might cover 1989 models, when the Ultradrive was known only as the A604.
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A604/41TE

Applications:

* 1989-1993 Chrysler New Yorker
* 1989-1995 Chrysler LeBaron
* 1989-2007 Dodge Caravan
* 1989-1993 Dodge Daytona
* 1989-1993 Dodge Dynasty
* 1989-1994 Dodge Shadow
* 1989-1994 Dodge Spirit
* 1989-1994 Plymouth Acclaim
* 1989-2000 Plymouth Voyager
* 1990-1993 Chrysler Imperial
* 1990-1993 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue
* 1990-2007 Chrysler Town and Country
* 1992-1994 Plymouth Duster
* 1995-2000 Chrysler Cirrus
* 1995-2006 Chrysler Sebring
* 1995-2000 Dodge Avenger
* 1995-2006 Dodge Stratus
* 1996-2000 Plymouth Breeze
* 2000-2003 Chrysler Voyager
* 2001-present Chrysler PT Cruiser
* 2002-2005 Dodge Neon

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41AE

The 41AE was a variant of the 41TE used for all-wheel drive variants of the minivans.

Applications:

* 1991-2004 Chrysler Town and Country
* 1991-2004 Dodge Caravan
* 1991-2000 Plymouth Voyager
* 2000-2003 Chrysler Voyager

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42LE

The 42LE was an upgraded version of the 41TE modified for longitudinal engines. It debuted in 1993 on the LH cars. It is strengthened with a reworked final drive unit, barreled axle shafts, and upgraded clutch packs.

The 42LE was modified in 2002 as the 42RLE, originally for the then-new Jeep Liberty. This transmission will reportedly remain in production through the end of the decade with the LX cars and the 2007 Jeep Wrangler.

Applications:

* 42LE
o 1999-2004 Chrysler 300M
o 1993-2004 Chrysler Concorde
o 1994-2001 Chrysler LHS
o 1994-1996 Chrysler New Yorker
o 1993-2004 Dodge Intrepid
o 1993-1997 Eagle Vision
o 1997-2001 Plymouth Prowler
o 2001-2002 Chrysler Prowler
* 42RLE
o 2005-present Chrysler 300
o 2007-present Chrysler Aspen
o 2006-present Dodge Charger
o 2005-present Dodge Dakota
o 2004-present Dodge Durango
o 2005-present Dodge Magnum
o 2007-present Dodge Nitro
o 2002-present Jeep Liberty
o 2003-present Jeep Wrangler

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40TES/41TES

The 40TES and 41TES are upgraded versions of the 41TE first introduced with the 2007 Chrysler Sebring. The 40TES is used with the 2.4 L GEMA I4 engine while the 41TES is used with the 2.7 L EER V6.

Applications:

* 2007-present Chrysler Sebring
* 2008-present Dodge Avenger

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62TE

The 62TE is a six-speed derivative of the 41TE first introduced with the 2007 Chrysler Sebring, and used on the 3.5 L EGJ V6.

Applications:

* 2007-present Chrysler Sebring
* 2008-present Dodge Avenger
 
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Great info Jackster had already found everything except the 4 types of cases. What I’m curious to find out is what else would bolt on to my 94 3.3 caravan. Apparently the 3.3 and 3.8 case is the same and all models from 90-95 should be the same. But what about a 2005 Neon? I don't know the engine size, but why limit the choices to 3 years (I wouldn't bother replacing with a junked 89-92 due to all the issues during that time with the a601). If I can find a 3.8 or a 3.8 liter that bolts up why not go with something made this decade? Or does none of the cars on your list have the 3.3 or 3.8 except for the 90-95 models? Or could I just change out the par that the cv joints mount to and everything would then work? would the speed sender from my van now work in another transmission? I have difficulty seeing how a transmission that is used in 20 different vehicles over 18 years would not just bolt up and go. where is the flaw in this? any help would be appreciated as I’m having to find a replacement after hearing that horrible noise that was mine dying. if I could afford the rebuild, I prefer that but can't wait for a month to get the money. hoping to just get the replacement and have that last until I can have the old one re-built. I'm asking about limits because the first yard I went to only had one to replace mine that was not older than 93 and if it doesn't work I get a credit at the yard. not too bad if I didn't have to actually have this tranny working. I can't afford to wait 3 or 4 weeks until another shows up and spend the time pulling another dud.

* 1989-1993 Chrysler New Yorker
* 1989-1995 Chrysler LeBaron
* 1989-2007 Dodge Caravan
* 1989-1993 Dodge Daytona
* 1989-1993 Dodge Dynasty
* 1989-1994 Dodge Shadow
* 1989-1994 Dodge Spirit
* 1989-1994 Plymouth Acclaim
* 1989-2000 Plymouth Voyager
* 1990-1993 Chrysler Imperial
* 1990-1993 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue
* 1990-2007 Chrysler Town and Country
* 1992-1994 Plymouth Duster
* 1995-2000 Chrysler Cirrus
* 1995-2006 Chrysler Sebring
* 1995-2000 Dodge Avenger
* 1995-2006 Dodge Stratus
* 1996-2000 Plymouth Breeze
* 2000-2003 Chrysler Voyager
* 2001-present Chrysler PT Cruiser
* 2002-2005 Dodge Neon

any takers?


I've done my best to research this in the short time i've had available. pelase don't be too upsetif i've overlooked this answer, but i really did try to look.
 



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