i know its not the same but with out a ported head and cam you can flow all the air you want into a head and it wont do a damn thing.. just like a stock v8 with a air gap manifold with a 950 demon carb.. lots of air and fuel not enough flow... thats all im saying.. you might gain a few horses but not enough to be worth 300+ dollars. i understand that they are port macthing wicth is good but without a polished head and better cam specs port and polsih really doesnt do any low end hp when you port and polish you usaly get more top end..but hey lets see some dyno charts!

I think it will yield some pretty impressive results, both on the dyno as well as on the street and at the track.

nice to see ya again roadrunner thought you had forgotten about this post. still waiting on the parts damm the post office is to slowwwwwww!

I know what you mean, I'm eagerly awaiting my Stage 1. Hopefully they will get mine in and to me in record fast time.[sm=gears.gif][sm=happy046.gif]

seek a you shall recieve road runner. my parts came in today unexpectedly but it was a nice suprise. sorry i had to put the parts on as soon as i got them. i only have one thing to say simply "awesome". you will have to ask if you want more details. ps didnt get around to the dyno but my but "O" meter tells me there are some decent gains.

I really think a 55 (not 60, that's to far out for anything but a big turbo car) TB and spacer, combined with this intake, and a Topend CNC Stage 2 head, followed by an S3 turbo and full three inch ehaust would be a holy terror

Oh, and water injection too

holy terror is an under statement i cant imagine this set up with the stage 3. 1 and second gear would be worthless.by the way the 60 mm throttle body works very well with the rich stage 2.

by the way good luck getting your stage 1 road runner let me know how that turns out.

I will, right after I have some fun breaking it in.

rock on road runner.