I never said that it was pointless to get Stage 2 without toys, I said that many people feel that it is pointless to get Stage 2 without toys. If I were to get Stage 2 it would be with toys, I want the added features and especially the fuel switch. When Stage 2 came out there were many people saying how it wasn't worth it and it was a waste of money without the toys. I cannot say if it is worth it or not without toys since I don't have it and never have had it.