Spring rates
ive mentioned that i wanted to get lowering springs. but i also want the very best of the best handling. so i was just thinking what would be the best sprin rates for our cars?(front and back). and also, do bushing help get oversteer?!?sry random as hell....
I'm guessing what you're asking is really how to get rid of or eliminate understeer.
First let me say that the auto manufacturers tend to design in more understeer than oversteer as it is considered the lesser of the two evils and safer for non drivers.
Also by nature fwd tends to understeer more than rwd especially when the throttle is applied while cornering as you probably already know. So if your car is fairly well balanced, (which the SRT-4 is) just some changes in driving techniques will net you more oversteer. That would be entering the corner a little faster, dabbing the brakes to drop the nose at turn in and not getting too hard into the gas. That transfers the weight forward, lifting the rear and creates lots of oversteer potential.
Now if you want to set up any car to be more tail happy by suspension tuning, a couple of things that will work are: 1) Try running a higher tire pressure than ideal in the rear (I did not say an unsafe pressure) Just a couple of more pounds than ideal. 2) Run a stiffer sway bar in the rear or softer in the front. That keeps the front tires more glued while the inside rear will try and may actually lift, effectively eliminating 50% of the contact patch in the rear and creating the potential for massive oversteer. 3) Run a stiffer and lowered front spring and leave the rears stock. Rear high will help create oversteer. 4) Any combinations of the above will help to create an evil, oversteering monster.
I do not know why you want to do this, I'm just telling you how to get there. Practice your driving techniques and make small changes untill you find the balance you like and one thats suits your style.
First let me say that the auto manufacturers tend to design in more understeer than oversteer as it is considered the lesser of the two evils and safer for non drivers.
Also by nature fwd tends to understeer more than rwd especially when the throttle is applied while cornering as you probably already know. So if your car is fairly well balanced, (which the SRT-4 is) just some changes in driving techniques will net you more oversteer. That would be entering the corner a little faster, dabbing the brakes to drop the nose at turn in and not getting too hard into the gas. That transfers the weight forward, lifting the rear and creates lots of oversteer potential.
Now if you want to set up any car to be more tail happy by suspension tuning, a couple of things that will work are: 1) Try running a higher tire pressure than ideal in the rear (I did not say an unsafe pressure) Just a couple of more pounds than ideal. 2) Run a stiffer sway bar in the rear or softer in the front. That keeps the front tires more glued while the inside rear will try and may actually lift, effectively eliminating 50% of the contact patch in the rear and creating the potential for massive oversteer. 3) Run a stiffer and lowered front spring and leave the rears stock. Rear high will help create oversteer. 4) Any combinations of the above will help to create an evil, oversteering monster.
I do not know why you want to do this, I'm just telling you how to get there. Practice your driving techniques and make small changes untill you find the balance you like and one thats suits your style.
the reason i want over steer is because i was an amatuer drifter when i had my last car and it was rear wheel drive. i also want to take it to the track form time to time and id rather opt for oversteer rather than under. cuz all you do with under is turn the wheel in a turn and str8 up hit the curb. i dont want that happening anywhere. this is my first fwd car and i desperatly wnat it to feel like a rwd car.
Ok, well doing any of the changes I mentioned will help to create an oversteer but ultimately are going to take something away from the cars balance and predictability. I know what drifting is even though I have not participated in it myself as it is not done here (except when the snow blows) but in my opinion, your fwd car will be much better at autocrossing, rally racing, roadracing or even drag racing. Drifting as a form of stylized driving is something that really can't be done right with fwd. I would not even bother. Fwd will never feel like rwd no matter what you do so why not focus on it's strengths? Buy a rwd beater, fix it up and use it for your drift car.


