Just wanted to know what happens if you take the bumper support out to fit a larger intercooler in. Just wanted to know the negative points and positve if there are any. Thanks in advance.

 

Postive - you have the bigger intercooler, better flow. However if your not at/want/near reaching high horsepower/torque numbers/gains a larger intercooler may just be a cosmetic mod for you. But if your really out there for the power, then go for it, the gains are there.

- they DO make the slowboy crashbar which is hideous as all hell but meant for those with larger intercoolers that need/want their crash bar still intact.

Neutral -
- 20lb weight decrease if not more from that stupid crashbar, its a heavy little one. However bigger FMIC balances out the gain

Negative - 1. If ever you were to get into a front end collision you may approach problems with your insurance company and your car not meeting the safety standards by having lacking safety equipment.

2. If in fact a front end collision does occur then brace for more damage in that area.

3. Your taking out a piece of the "frame" in essence. Think of your car like a cardboard box momentarily. Its like having a cardboard box with 3 sides. Some SRT owners with large FMICs have reported frame shifting and decreased stability of the vehicle. Hence the production of the Slowboy Crashbar (ugly, but it does its job...I think? Not sure on that one).

Other than that, I can't think of anything right now. Hope that helped.

 

hey just dont crash and u'll be fine.....big intercooler means YEAH!

 

Basically, if you are at or above Stage 3's power level, then the larger intercooler is very useful, but if your not up to that level it will only look good and be of very little if any use at all. I wouldn't get it simply because of the safety and stability issues since mine is my daily driver, but if I were to, ugly or not I would definately get the crash bar.

 

Agree with all of the above. The slowboy and other "crash bars" should help with the frame alignment issue, but most likely will provide little to no help at all in a crash. If you could get away such a spindly piece and still passs crash tests, they would have. Right now, there is one idea I would consider. Dale Seeley is using an AIS intercooler with a custon welded stock crash beam. Based on the SRT team telling him this is the intercooler to get.

He has said that he had assistance from DCX folks on fabbing up this beam up. He is going to check commercial interest first, if none, then he has said he'll share the details. And myself, the AIS intercooler is the only one I would put on my car. The endtank design is a thing of beauty. If I end up keeping my car forever, this is what I'll do. Til then, as soon as I sell my stock turbo, I'll be buying a Devils Own water/alky injection kit.

 

There is some good advice here, especially the comment about stage 3. That intercooler is very effective for a stock unit. It is larger than most included in an aftermarket turbo system. I would install a CO2 freeze sprayer
before I compromised any crash integrity. Remember, these car dial up triple digits on the spedo very quickly, and it's not impossible to get into trouble quickly. I hate to see anyone get hurt just for a few extra pony's. If all your going to do is the 1320, go for it. For a daily driver, I wouldn't.

 

AGP has a direct fit intercooler that will give you gains if you are approaching the 300whp mark. It is a much nicer piece than the stock intercooler, flows better and cools better. AND it fits in the stock location with the crash-bar intact.

Since I'm pushing a big turbo and am expecting 500+ whp once the engine is built to handle it, I opted for the AGP Race FMIC and dumped the crash-bar.