WHEEL HOP
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RE: WHEEL HOP
ORIGINAL: WhtLightning
As far as the motor mounts go, I'd like to see what the old school people think of this. I've been thinking alot about the solid mount/vibration thing lately. In "the old days" people used to use something called a torque strap on V8s. For those of you unfamiliar with them, it is a metal cable/strap that is fixed between the passenger side shock tower and the engine (on inline mounted engines). When not under load it would be less than taught, but when the motor started to torque it would hold it back like a tether. The advantage to this over solid MMs, was that there was far less vibration during "normal" driving. I've been wondering if this technique could be adapted to a transverse engine. One of the possible problems could be finding a strong enough anchor point up near the radiator support, as the motor must roll back under load. I've even wondered if it could be done on the bottom of the motor and anchored under the front floor. I haven't had the chance to check out how everything moves and flexes yet with these cars, so this could turn out to be impractical, But I thought I'd see what others thought of this, and if it worked it would be more traffic friendly than 4x4's solution.. LOL
As far as the motor mounts go, I'd like to see what the old school people think of this. I've been thinking alot about the solid mount/vibration thing lately. In "the old days" people used to use something called a torque strap on V8s. For those of you unfamiliar with them, it is a metal cable/strap that is fixed between the passenger side shock tower and the engine (on inline mounted engines). When not under load it would be less than taught, but when the motor started to torque it would hold it back like a tether. The advantage to this over solid MMs, was that there was far less vibration during "normal" driving. I've been wondering if this technique could be adapted to a transverse engine. One of the possible problems could be finding a strong enough anchor point up near the radiator support, as the motor must roll back under load. I've even wondered if it could be done on the bottom of the motor and anchored under the front floor. I haven't had the chance to check out how everything moves and flexes yet with these cars, so this could turn out to be impractical, But I thought I'd see what others thought of this, and if it worked it would be more traffic friendly than 4x4's solution.. LOL
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RE: WHEEL HOP
ORIGINAL: posthondaremoval
What about just using a piston type torque strut at the front of the engine and just attach it to the front of the car in addition to the two flexy torque struts everyone replaces with solids or modifys with urethane inserts. It would be pretty much the same thing as a torque strap and redily available.
ORIGINAL: WhtLightning
As far as the motor mounts go, I'd like to see what the old school people think of this. I've been thinking alot about the solid mount/vibration thing lately. In "the old days" people used to use something called a torque strap on V8s. For those of you unfamiliar with them, it is a metal cable/strap that is fixed between the passenger side shock tower and the engine (on inline mounted engines). When not under load it would be less than taught, but when the motor started to torque it would hold it back like a tether. The advantage to this over solid MMs, was that there was far less vibration during "normal" driving. I've been wondering if this technique could be adapted to a transverse engine. One of the possible problems could be finding a strong enough anchor point up near the radiator support, as the motor must roll back under load. I've even wondered if it could be done on the bottom of the motor and anchored under the front floor. I haven't had the chance to check out how everything moves and flexes yet with these cars, so this could turn out to be impractical, But I thought I'd see what others thought of this, and if it worked it would be more traffic friendly than 4x4's solution.. LOL
As far as the motor mounts go, I'd like to see what the old school people think of this. I've been thinking alot about the solid mount/vibration thing lately. In "the old days" people used to use something called a torque strap on V8s. For those of you unfamiliar with them, it is a metal cable/strap that is fixed between the passenger side shock tower and the engine (on inline mounted engines). When not under load it would be less than taught, but when the motor started to torque it would hold it back like a tether. The advantage to this over solid MMs, was that there was far less vibration during "normal" driving. I've been wondering if this technique could be adapted to a transverse engine. One of the possible problems could be finding a strong enough anchor point up near the radiator support, as the motor must roll back under load. I've even wondered if it could be done on the bottom of the motor and anchored under the front floor. I haven't had the chance to check out how everything moves and flexes yet with these cars, so this could turn out to be impractical, But I thought I'd see what others thought of this, and if it worked it would be more traffic friendly than 4x4's solution.. LOL
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RE: WHEEL HOP
ORIGINAL: svt2srt4
the torque strut idea you have is already in use on the evo8's and agp and weapon r both make a version and its a really good idea but the weapon r version has a design flaw and seems to have a tendency to break at the weld...why they havent developed one for the srt-4 yet i dont know...but personally i had wheel hop once at the track so bad it opened the sunroof and turned on the windshield wipers...since then i have installed agp solid mm's and they have eliminated my wheel hop and now i have nothing but wheel spin thru 3 gears..
ORIGINAL: posthondaremoval
What about just using a piston type torque strut at the front of the engine and just attach it to the front of the car in addition to the two flexy torque struts everyone replaces with solids or modifys with urethane inserts. It would be pretty much the same thing as a torque strap and redily available.
ORIGINAL: WhtLightning
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RE: WHEEL HOP
ORIGINAL: posthondaremoval
They are in use on the srt-4 as well and many others, too, like my buddies ser specv, and I wasn't trying to say I thought of the idea(thus the readily available coment), just that it would probably work. It is generally called an engine torque dampener.
ORIGINAL: svt2srt4
the torque strut idea you have is already in use on the evo8's and agp and weapon r both make a version and its a really good idea but the weapon r version has a design flaw and seems to have a tendency to break at the weld...why they havent developed one for the srt-4 yet i dont know...but personally i had wheel hop once at the track so bad it opened the sunroof and turned on the windshield wipers...since then i have installed agp solid mm's and they have eliminated my wheel hop and now i have nothing but wheel spin thru 3 gears..
ORIGINAL: posthondaremoval
What about just using a piston type torque strut at the front of the engine and just attach it to the front of the car in addition to the two flexy torque struts everyone replaces with solids or modifys with urethane inserts. It would be pretty much the same thing as a torque strap and redily available.
ORIGINAL: WhtLightning
