Dodge transmission question
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Welcome to the site. I am not sure if they are interchangeable, but here is a little article:
The 45RFE transmission
The 45RFE transmission
RFE stands for rear wheel drive, fully electronic. This is an electronically-controlled transmission with five forward ratios including an alternate second gear ratio for improved performance for passing and better fuel economy. It was designed for Jeeps but was used later in Dodge trucks; its first use was in the 1999 Grand Cherokee V8.
The transmission features a tall, 3.00:1 first gear that gives the driver better initial acceleration. Real-time driver adaptive shifting fine-tunes the shift pattern to the driver, while an alternate second gear ratio gives the driver five forward ratios. During acceleration, second gear has a ratio of 1.67. Depending on speed and throttle position, both this gear and an alternate 1.50 second gear ratio are available for kick-down operation, making the down-shift smoother. Its reverse gear ratio is equal to the first gear ratio, to allow for heavier loads.
Other features include three planetary gear sets that combine the widest range of gear ratios available in any transmission in its class. Combined with precise step selections, this brings smooth shifts and maximum power and optimal fuel economy.
The transmission is built at the Indiana Transmission Plant in Kokomo, Indiana, in an all-new 1.2-million square-foot facility.
The Dodge 47RH and 47RE heavy-duty automatic transmission
A heavy-duty four-speed Torqueflite® transmission designated 47RH was used on Ram 2500 and 3500 models with 8.0-liter V-10 or 5.9-liter Cummins Turbo-Diesel engines. It had a torque capacity of 450 lb-ft and supported trailer towing capacity up to 19,000 pounds GCWR - the highest ratings in the industry for a one-ton truck. The 47RH included a torque converter with lock-up clutch, a hydraulically operated three-speed planetary transmission, and an electronically-controlled overdrive unit. Overdrive could be locked out with a button.
The 47RH transmission was created by upgrading the 46RH transmission and the overdrive unit. Base transmission revisions were:
The torque converter clutch engaged at highway cruising speed to improve fuel economy. The converter clutch was not previously available with the diesel engine. The V-10 and diesel versions of the transmission had unique shift schedules due to their vastly different torque curves.
The 47RH was replaced by the 47RE. (The 4 was the number of gears, including an overdrive; the capacity rating of 7; R for rear wheel drive; and H for hydraulic control, or E for electronic control, though the substitution of “E” for “H” was more of a coding change than an engineering change). The primary difference between the two automatics appears to have been the name, since Chrysler press materials noted that even the 47RE had hydraulic shift control (other than the overdrive, which was electronically activated in both automatics).
The 47RH and 47RE were reserved for V10 and Cummins diesel engines.
Gear Ratios:
The transmission features a tall, 3.00:1 first gear that gives the driver better initial acceleration. Real-time driver adaptive shifting fine-tunes the shift pattern to the driver, while an alternate second gear ratio gives the driver five forward ratios. During acceleration, second gear has a ratio of 1.67. Depending on speed and throttle position, both this gear and an alternate 1.50 second gear ratio are available for kick-down operation, making the down-shift smoother. Its reverse gear ratio is equal to the first gear ratio, to allow for heavier loads.
Other features include three planetary gear sets that combine the widest range of gear ratios available in any transmission in its class. Combined with precise step selections, this brings smooth shifts and maximum power and optimal fuel economy.
The transmission is built at the Indiana Transmission Plant in Kokomo, Indiana, in an all-new 1.2-million square-foot facility.
The Dodge 47RH and 47RE heavy-duty automatic transmission
A heavy-duty four-speed Torqueflite® transmission designated 47RH was used on Ram 2500 and 3500 models with 8.0-liter V-10 or 5.9-liter Cummins Turbo-Diesel engines. It had a torque capacity of 450 lb-ft and supported trailer towing capacity up to 19,000 pounds GCWR - the highest ratings in the industry for a one-ton truck. The 47RH included a torque converter with lock-up clutch, a hydraulically operated three-speed planetary transmission, and an electronically-controlled overdrive unit. Overdrive could be locked out with a button.
The 47RH transmission was created by upgrading the 46RH transmission and the overdrive unit. Base transmission revisions were:
- Input shaft enlarged 0.070-inches at the torque converter clutch oil feed hole
- Torque converter clutch oil feed hole shot-peened inside
- Pressure angle on spline between the intermediate shaft and the front planetary gear unit changed from 37.5 degrees to 30 degrees
- Fifth pinion added to the front planetary gear carrier
- Reverse band widened and changed from single to double wrapped configuration
- Reverse servo unit revised
- Case casting and machining redesigned to accommodate internal changes noted above
- Ninth disc added to overdrive direct drive clutch
- Output shaft governor shaft cross hole shot peened to increase fatigue life
- Output shaft selective annealing process revised to allow governor shaft cross hole to remain hard
- Governor drive key changed from semi-circular "Woodruff" to a 1/ 4-inch square to reduce stress on the shaft
The torque converter clutch engaged at highway cruising speed to improve fuel economy. The converter clutch was not previously available with the diesel engine. The V-10 and diesel versions of the transmission had unique shift schedules due to their vastly different torque curves.
The 47RH was replaced by the 47RE. (The 4 was the number of gears, including an overdrive; the capacity rating of 7; R for rear wheel drive; and H for hydraulic control, or E for electronic control, though the substitution of “E” for “H” was more of a coding change than an engineering change). The primary difference between the two automatics appears to have been the name, since Chrysler press materials noted that even the 47RE had hydraulic shift control (other than the overdrive, which was electronically activated in both automatics).
The 47RH and 47RE were reserved for V10 and Cummins diesel engines.
Gear Ratios:
1st: 2.45
2nd: 1.45
3rd: 1.00
4th: 0.69
Overall Top Gear Ratio: 2.57 with 3.73 axle ratio and 2.82 with 4.10 axle ratio
2nd: 1.45
3rd: 1.00
4th: 0.69
Overall Top Gear Ratio: 2.57 with 3.73 axle ratio and 2.82 with 4.10 axle ratio
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RE vs. RFE
RFE transmissions were drawn up from scratch on a clean sheet of paper and are not mechanically or electronically compatible as a drop in replacement. They were launched as a tranny for the Jeep in 4.7l v 8 form and later adapted to the late model Dodge platform. The 68rfe was the first Cummins urged version of this.
hope this helps.