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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Hummer factory standard, BF Goodrich All Terrians 315/70/17 load range D (Almost 35" tall and 11.5" wide)
Hummer factory standard, 17x8 seven spoke alloy wheel "looks a little like old Hurricane wheels without center cap"


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I just noticed that this mod has been covered before, I tried searching before posting and couldent find anything, O WELL, might help some othe newB


I'm on a tight budget, and my dry rotted 265/75/16's were to dinky for my taste and trails in Phoenix area, I did not want to pay $700-$1200 on just new tires on (factory alloys) rims I don't realy like anyway.

I did a little searching online and found the Hummer H2 Wheels have same 8 lug bolt pattern as the Dodge

(the main reason for checking on this is, I see sets of these H-2 wheels and tires at shops and in classifieds all the time as a lot of richer people then me replace them with a sets of High $ bling blings)

I found a set on craigslist asking $450 about a 1/2 hour away, the guy let me test fit one before i bought them for $260 (4 wheels, 50% tread tires, caps, lugs, lugs don't fit) Great deal!

depending on area you live, prices should be from $400 - $1200 a set, in my search I found alot, some that were brand new take offs, some with chrome plated wheels, etc. remember these tires new cost about $220 each
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I know this post is long andmay not apply to many out there, but if you have a 3/4 ton 4x4 and haven't invested money on custom after market wheels and tires yet this may be a good option for you, for me it saved meat least$600 plus it looks and performs much better than just new tires on Dodge rims. If I canfigure out how to get a photo on a forum I will post.

What I needed to do for fitment: (your year 3/4 ton may vary, but install will be similer)

(if you are not mech. inclined or comfortable with a grinder, a shop could do this for you in an hour or less)

this was on a 2000 Ram 2500 4x4 with d60s and rear drum brakes

-The hub center hole on H-2 wheel is 1/16"-1/8" to small to fit over the rear hub (part that sticks out) on the factory Dana 60 rear and on the front unit bearing hub on factory Dana 60 front.

I took a 3 1/2" stone type grinding wheel on an angle grinder and just went to work around the hub circle on each wheel till I found what fit, the first one took about half hour of trial fitting and being carefull not to go to far but the rest took about 15 min. ea. once I new what was needed. (please note, this does not take anything away from the structure of the wheel) after the rough grinding with the stone type wheel I cleaned it up with a sand paper flapper wheel with same angle grinder

I am somewhat of a SAFETY NUT and don't like wheels falling off, somethings of note, on every wheel i modified I went to the truck and mounted and torqued them down and used a mechanics mirror and flash light to make sure each wheel seated flush to drum or disk, I made sure the lug nut taper was the same, and checked the torque on all lugs about 4 times in 100 miles of mixed driving "all stayed tight".

I understand how hubcentric type wheels work and was a bit worried at first but they are smooth on the road.

I just did this swap a couple days ago and have driven highway and serious dirt and rock offroad, only about 100mi. but this is what I found so far:

-to me, they look great, a very agressive tough look compared to the stock weenie donuts, they fill the wheel well (stock 3/4 ton 4x4 suspension) much better. the hummer center caps would work on the front but on back you would have to cut a hole for the dana 60 full floater hub

"I think it looks better with no caps, I cleaned up all the exposed hubs, lug nuts and painted them a gun metal grey"

-the ride: much better, these wheels are wider and offset more then stock so it feel like it handles more secure.
I'm still figuring on the best air pressure unloaded, but overall the seat of pants feel is good "for a 3/4 ton gas Ram"

-power: around town just fine, I can tell some power was lost do to the extra weight, rolling resistance and larger tire diam. (I weighed my stock 16" 265's alloy wheel & tire, they were 74lbs, the hummer combo 315 on 17's is about 92lbs), on the highway you can tell a bit more (I live in a hilly mountain area) I had to drop out off overdrive a few times more then with old tires, I will likley swap to the stock rims and tires when I do any long distance towing of my jeep

you guys that have a diesel will not have any powerissues

I have factory 4.11 gears and a gas 360 with alot of miles

-speedometer: for me acording to GPS, at highway speeds (45-65) speedo is off about 5 MPH showing to fast

-OFFROAD: I have always thought BFG AT's are a great all around tire that is about as tough offroad as you can get without comprimising on road to much, on the Ram, Wow! I aired down to about 14 psi and this thing just went up and over places I never thought it would, great traction (I did disconnect the front anti-sway bar, BIG PLUS)

*for those that take there 1/2 or 3/4 ton Rams off-road often.
If you haven't yet disconnected the front anti-sway bar, give it a try, off road ride is much smoother and it will help keep all tires on the ground, its almost like adding a limited slip or locker on some stuff, its not bad on road, a little more sway and in a panic situation could be a problem so keep it connected for the street!

same goes for lowering tire air pressure off-road, try it, the difference is night and day and is often the difference between getting stuck or not, always have a on board source of air (portable compresor)
to get back to street pressure before you drive home


I have a fair amount of offroading under my belt with all sorts of trucks, jeeps, I have a TJ with air lockers and BFG CRAWLERS, so for the stock Ram with just bigger more aggressive tires and no front sway bar to impress me and others wheelers was a big deal!

-rubbing on-road: only front, when I do a tight U-Turn the outside edge of tire rubs the inner plastic fender liner (it only rubs a smooth surface towards the back and makes a light mark, very slight)

-rubbing off-road: only front, same as above only a little more, and if you have the sway bar disconnected and have stock front bumper they rub that corner plastic lip/lower air dam on full stuff and turn, I will cut a little of this corner with hack saw or knife, its a common area of rub with bigger tires, the offset of the H-2 rims are somewere between the stock wheel and common aftermarket wheel, I havent measured but my track width has increased about 3"

Overall I am very happy with the swap, best $260 I spent in a while
 
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Thanks for posting all the details and info/pics. Truck looks good with the new package.
A note to our other readers: Be VERY careful if you modify a set of wheels. Nobody will put any sort of guarantee of functionality/suitability for a particular application on something like that, so keep in mind the potential safety issues, and only undertake a project like this if you are fully confident in your skills and tools.
 
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looks sweet with "mer" on the rims still! like it a lot!
 
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