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Old 04-05-2011, 08:42 PM
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Default Leaf spring shackle flip. Easy 3.25in lift!! With pics

I needed to match the rear of my truck to the front. So I needed a lift without cheater blocks. So a Shackle mount flip and a longer shackle will be done.

I first got my mounts from http://www.gatsbycars.com/dodge.html
The rears are exactly the same as Ram full size trucks. I can verify the bolt holes are perfect. 1/4in thick nice and strong. Easy bolt in no welding or drilling (if you want that is).

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I also got 12 Grade 8 1/2in bolts. Stock brackets only used 4 of the 6 holes. I might as well and use all 6 bolts for extra strength.

So first I started by removing the bed. I didn't want to be grinding with the grinder in my face. I was so easy to remove with a few friends to help lift it.

Next came out the cut off wheel to cut off the rivet heads off. The tops very easy, lowers to some time. Gridded down the rest of the heads and knocked off the stock mount. Then cut off the rest of the rivet body, cut it close to frame without gouging into it. Got a punch and a good hammer and only took a few hits. Each side 15mins. Very easy!!!

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The frame holes are slightly under 1/2. Just had to run the drill to make exactly 1/2in. Dropped in the stock 4 and drill the other 2, with the mount as the perfect template. Dropped in the last 2 and tightened them all down.

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Put the bed back and reinstalled the stock shackles. For me I need more so I didn't bolt them up, just used the bolts to mock up. I got 3.25in more lift with stock shackles. I will order a Rams 2in lift shackles. The only note I need to say is the Dakota stock shackle hole is 1/2in with the thread smaller. The new mount is 5/8. The lift shackles will fix this, but if others want to use stock bolts may need to use some kind of insert to keep it centered.

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Here is a before and after the rear shackle flip.

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Another option is just using your stock mount and just turn it upside down. A Ram owner said 2in lift.
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Or use a 2wd shackle mount or the front style of the both trucks. You can cut them off of a junkyard truck. But a new replacement bracket is easier to get a hold of.
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So I'm sorry if I missed it, but how did you lift the front?
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I did a SAS Solid Axle Swap. A custom axle under the front. It gave me a good 6in vs before and a good 8-9in from stock.
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Nice find!! I'm gonna order a set of those for mine. If you recall from my build thread, after I got done with my leaf spring mounts, the wheels were sitting off center and I've been meaning to start over. Those will save me a lot of headache for the rear leaf spring mounts, so I will just have to do the front leaf spring mounts from scratch.

I think I forgot in my write up to talk about having to drill the holes to 1/2 and inch, so I'm glad you covered that!

By the way, just to let you know, there is a very high chance that your rear wheels will be off center from the wheel wells. When you "turn" the leaf springs downward in the rear with the front mounts as a "center point", you are moving the axle forward.
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I was thinking if I needed more lift I would just order some for the front mounts. They do custom ones, where they drill the holes. Or blank ones where you drill the holes once you sit it where you want.

As for axle moving up I didn't think to much of it, till I was on the Ram and they claim it moves it a lot. I doubt the new mount moved it much tops .5in. But with the lift shackles it may put it quite a bit more. I have the rearend out so I can do the gears. Once I put it all back together I will measure with the stock shackles and then lift shackle to see if it moves.

I bought some lift shackles from Autozone for $35.
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I will post pics in my SAS thread. From a simple measurement it is 2.5in longer than our stocks.
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I finished up the Rear axle so I was able to install it and take some measurements of the forward shift of the axle. I'm not sure where stock put the axle within the fender well. I measured from the center of the fender well. With the shackle flip brackets I used and stock shackles I got 1in forward. With the 2.5in lift shackles I got 1.5in total.

By looking at it you can barely tell that is shifted forward. My only concern is the driveshaft slip. If I were doing just the flip brackets the driveshaft would be fine even at full suspension drop. But with the lift shackles I don't have enough clearance forward for the driveshaft slip.

So I ordered these Zero Rate Add A Leafs today. They will shift the axle back 1in or 1.5in and put it to the center of the fender and give me my slip back in the driveshaft.
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With the lift shackles the rear is now even with the front when measuring from the fender lip. The driveway is at an angel so the front is taller and the passenger side is taller due to the driveway.

I hate to have a lift block but at least it is only 1in thick and not my main point of lift. So the leverage it will give will be minimal. And the added hight will help give the rear a better look.

I still have shocks brake lines and cables to relocate! More and More work!!

Here is the lift shackle installed.
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Here is the wheel with the stock shackles 1in forward from center of wheel well.
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Here is the wheel with the lift shackles 1.5in forward from center of wheel well.
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Here is the truck with the lift shackles installed. Almost full lift.
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i have a 93 dakota sport 2wd 3.9 magnum and want to make it 4x4 with a huge lift, can you please list everything i need to clear 36s or better, Thanks
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i have a 93 dakota sport 2wd 3.9 magnum and want to make it 4x4 with a huge lift, can you please list everything i need to clear 36s or better, Thanks
You will need to do a SAS Solid Axle Swap. With a 4wd transmission/transfercase and front and a larger rear axles. Tons of cutting tons of welding. Check my SAS in my signature.
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i wanna lift my truck, but dont quite understand how this lift the truck heres some pics of my shackle hangers(91 v6 single cab 2wd):
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i have a buddy at a welding shop so he could make some shackle but im not quite sure exactly how they lift the truck
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Look great, Crazy! I did not know it was that simple to lift the rear. My '93 is stock, but I wouldn't mind the whole truck to be about 2" higher. When I get the time, I might give it a try. Thanks for this post! And the photos!!

Wow, Crazy!! I just watched the video in your link about rock/snow climbing - made me nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs! I just knew something was going to break!!!
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i wanna lift my truck, but dont quite understand how this lift the truck heres some pics of my shackle hangers(91 v6 single cab 2wd):
i have a buddy at a welding shop so he could make some shackle but im not quite sure exactly how they lift the truck
The bracket flip works on 4wd for lift. Doing a flip on 2wd will actually lower it.
2wd have the hangers as you posted, 4wd have the hangers opposite of 2wd where they are upwards. A good way for you to pick up some easy lift is by using lift/lower shackles as I did (Not the flip shackle brackets). That will give you some lift. Also an AAL Add A Leaf kit will give you a few inches. Blocks too but I hate cheater blocks.


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Look great, Crazy! I did not know it was that simple to lift the rear. My '93 is stock, but I wouldn't mind the whole truck to be about 2" higher. When I get the time, I might give it a try. Thanks for this post! And the photos!!

Wow, Crazy!! I just watched the video in your link about rock/snow climbing - made me nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs! I just knew something was going to break!!!
LOL. It was fun, can't wait to do it again. I need a front locker.
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I dont wanna us blocks because im not too sure of the body mount bolts, and wanna lift but nothing expensive, preferably the cheaper the better. so the brackets you have are basically extending the factory brackets
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Are you talking about body lift blocks? The body lift 2in kits are safe and all the bolts are included usually under $100 for the kit.

The blocks I was talking about are for the axle, but now that I think of it 2wd wont be able to use it to lift.

Yes the brackets I have extend the factory location as well as flip the hanger position.
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Ever since I did the swap on the rear of the leaf spring brackets I've been wanting to do the front. It feels like the rear is to stiff due to the angle of the leaf springs. As well as it helps with lowing the spring to give lift, so I can remove the lift leaf spring shackle/hanger, So I ordered the same brackets that I used on the rear, although the front side is not the exact bolt pattern as the rear, so custom drilling new bolt holes are required. I used the stock 2 lower bolt holes and just drilled new upper holes. Grade 8 1/2 bolts. At the same time in order to gain some more articulation out of the rearend I removed the Ram 2500 leaf spring that has been giving me most of my lift on the rear. As well as add in a few softer leafs to help gain some lift back but not by arching the springs. I'm still need to do more adjustments to level it to the front. I also did a Body lift delete which lowered the truck 2in, it was just to top heavy due to its lift. On off camber situations left you feeling like it was going to tip. Stability is key.

I can't tell you how much this will lift a stock since I did more work to lower and lift the rear then just the mount swap alone.

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I wanna lift mine for reasonably cheap but I have no idea where to start and what you did made your truck sit about as high as I want mine but i haven't really got under my truck so I don't know much about it so all 1st gen dakotas have that bracket?
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Where did you get that brush gaurd at? Ive been looking for one for my 93 dakota for a while now.
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I custom built mine off of one that was from an 80's Ford truck. Here is my write up.http://dodgeforum.com/forum/2522004-post39.html
Ebay tends to be the last place to find a bolt on units.

Here is the write up from the FAQ.
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www.Jcw.com has some light bars.
For a full size guard there is only one. www.ebay.com

A few others said cap-it.com has it and smittybilt.com, Westin.com but I checked I couldn't find anything Or custom make it. I custom made mine. You may also be able to get a 2nd gen and try it. I believe the frame widths are the same.

One guy said he got it from this site. It doesn't have it listed but give them a call. http://www.armorrex.com/product/prod...eID=9&cateID=4

Go Industries site Knockdown Grille Brush Guards

Custom made is always an option. Here is my custom made push bar write-up. http://dodgeforum.com/forum/2522004-post39.html
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