Limited Slip differential?
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You guys have no idea what i am trying to explain nor understand! It's a Proven concept that any LSD or locker does worse in bad weather! WTF. Not to mention I have owned both and driven both. And no it's not my foot that has a problem. Going around turns say on an entrance ramp, you have to hit the gas to get moving. Instead of one wheel spinnin in the snow and you maintaining control...If you have LSD or a locker both wheels spin and you can lose control. Got it!
#14
look, if you have one tire gabbing in the rear or two and then one or two in the front then the more the merrier. sure one track will keep you/ from sliding but the more traction you have the better you are getting stuck. the more wheels moving the better you are gettin home.. never is an open diff better than a LSD or locker than an open i dont care what you think.
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You guys have no idea what i am trying to explain nor understand! It's a Proven concept that any LSD or locker does worse in bad weather! WTF. Not to mention I have owned both and driven both. And no it's not my foot that has a problem. Going around turns say on an entrance ramp, you have to hit the gas to get moving. Instead of one wheel spinnin in the snow and you maintaining control...If you have LSD or a locker both wheels spin and you can lose control. Got it!
In lamens terms, when driving on slick roads, and turning, if both tires in the rear are turning at the same speed, you're screwed. The rear end will come sliding around like somebody has a tow strap hooked up to you and is pulling your rear sideways. Think of it as unintentional drifting. You don't even have to try, and your rear end comes drifting around the corner.
Lucas
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I understand you completely Dog. It's hard to explain it unless you've experienced it first hand.
In lamens terms, when driving on slick roads, and turning, if both tires in the rear are turning at the same speed, you're screwed. The rear end will come sliding around like somebody has a tow strap hooked up to you and is pulling your rear sideways. Think of it as unintentional drifting. You don't even have to try, and your rear end comes drifting around the corner.
Lucas
In lamens terms, when driving on slick roads, and turning, if both tires in the rear are turning at the same speed, you're screwed. The rear end will come sliding around like somebody has a tow strap hooked up to you and is pulling your rear sideways. Think of it as unintentional drifting. You don't even have to try, and your rear end comes drifting around the corner.
Lucas
Lockers in daily drivers = Bad, LSD = Good!
I really can't think of any situation where anyone could convince me I'd want an open differential over a good quality LSD. And I've driven all over, both on and off-pavement from the mountains of central N.Y. to the swamps of Florida...
#17
If it doesn't mention "anti-spin..." it likely doesn't have LSD. However, a safer test is to put one rear wheel on something slippery (wet grass, sand, etc.) and goose it. If it moves out, you have LSD. If not, it's a peg-leg.
#18
LSD does not kick in until the wheel starts to spin. Are you guys confusing it with a fully lock locker? Hands down I will take LSD over open in any weather in the rear.
Now in my Jeep I love being fully locked but i use it very differently and would not recommend it bad weather on highway.
Now in my Jeep I love being fully locked but i use it very differently and would not recommend it bad weather on highway.
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Guys, dirtydog's got it right. I think everyone agrees that they'd take the LSD when stuck in deep snow. The more wheels spinning, the more likely something will grip.
At speed it's another story though. A spinning tire by definition it has *no* traction. It has no resistance to being moved forward, back, or sideways because it isn't gripping the surface. If only one rear tire starts spinning on water or ice then the truck will keep tracking straight because the other tire has traction and can resist any sideways force. But if both rear tires start spinning then the rear end will come around as soon as something imparts a sideways force on the back of the truck. Like lharrell said it usually happens when the front wheels are gripping (they're weighted) so they start a turn and the rear end snaps right around.
Don't get me wrong, my truck has the LSD because I don't want to be stuck plowing. But a truck with an open diff is less likely to spin around on an unsuspecting driver.
At speed it's another story though. A spinning tire by definition it has *no* traction. It has no resistance to being moved forward, back, or sideways because it isn't gripping the surface. If only one rear tire starts spinning on water or ice then the truck will keep tracking straight because the other tire has traction and can resist any sideways force. But if both rear tires start spinning then the rear end will come around as soon as something imparts a sideways force on the back of the truck. Like lharrell said it usually happens when the front wheels are gripping (they're weighted) so they start a turn and the rear end snaps right around.
Don't get me wrong, my truck has the LSD because I don't want to be stuck plowing. But a truck with an open diff is less likely to spin around on an unsuspecting driver.