Dodge AT4
#51
05-20-2020, 02:50 AM
I know this thread was posted ages ago but my reply might help anyone else who needs to figure out what the model numbers mean on Dodge AT4. Well firstly AT4 stands for Australian Truck Series 4, much the same way as an AP2, AP5 etc stands for "Australian Production" chryslers e.g aussie chrysler royal (AP2) and aussie chrysler valiants (AP5 AP6).
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey
hey mate, currently have a 575 with the 318 in it, can’t seem to find a build year, not on the blue plate or is there another one I’ve missed some where?
#52
05-21-2020, 10:28 AM
Angus, I'm not familiar with Dodge Trucks for these details but it may be the same as they used for the Valiants.
This info below came from the Charger Club of WA pages for VIN Decoding and applies to models FROM 1970 ONWARDS.
This may apply to earlier models but without seeing the tags I'm not sure.On the compliance plate of all vehicles you will find the month and year of manufacture followed by the model and series (V for Valiant, C for Chrysler, G,H,J,K,L,M), the price range (number & letter), the body type, a "/" then 2 letters and 2 numbers. This is the actual completion date.
The first letter is the Year:
A 1970 B 1971 C 1972 D 1973 E 1974 F 1975 G Up to July 1976 H From July on I 1977 J 1978 K 1979 L 1980
The second letter is the Month:
A January B February C March D April E May F June G July H August I September J October K November L December
The next two digits are the day of the month. For Example:
1/74 VJ7M29/EA16-2657
Indicates a Valiant 'J' Series Charger built 16th January 1974 in the high end of the medium price range and that it is number 2657 of its type in the build sequence.
If your Dodge was produced from 1962 to 1969, from another site I found this:
From the removable metal ID plate there may be a series of about 10 numbers -
the 3rd number indicates the year - '2' for 1962
eg 11 28117367
This info below came from the Charger Club of WA pages for VIN Decoding and applies to models FROM 1970 ONWARDS.
This may apply to earlier models but without seeing the tags I'm not sure.On the compliance plate of all vehicles you will find the month and year of manufacture followed by the model and series (V for Valiant, C for Chrysler, G,H,J,K,L,M), the price range (number & letter), the body type, a "/" then 2 letters and 2 numbers. This is the actual completion date.
The first letter is the Year:
A 1970 B 1971 C 1972 D 1973 E 1974 F 1975 G Up to July 1976 H From July on I 1977 J 1978 K 1979 L 1980
The second letter is the Month:
A January B February C March D April E May F June G July H August I September J October K November L December
The next two digits are the day of the month. For Example:
1/74 VJ7M29/EA16-2657
Indicates a Valiant 'J' Series Charger built 16th January 1974 in the high end of the medium price range and that it is number 2657 of its type in the build sequence.
If your Dodge was produced from 1962 to 1969, from another site I found this:
From the removable metal ID plate there may be a series of about 10 numbers -
the 3rd number indicates the year - '2' for 1962
eg 11 28117367
#53
06-03-2020, 06:20 PM
Brake Vacuum Setup
Hi All,
Recently became an owner of a AT4 690 with a Perkins 6354. Thanks to this site to help identify.
I have bought a service manual which shows the brake components but not so much on the vacuum side for example the other components that make up the system I was wondering if anyone had some more information or some photo's under the hood of how their truck is set up as there is a small reservoir / canister mounted on the fire wall with some hoses coming off it one goes to the vacuum tanks and booster the other is supposed to go to the engine probably the intake manifold not sure what else is missing.
Recently became an owner of a AT4 690 with a Perkins 6354. Thanks to this site to help identify.
I have bought a service manual which shows the brake components but not so much on the vacuum side for example the other components that make up the system I was wondering if anyone had some more information or some photo's under the hood of how their truck is set up as there is a small reservoir / canister mounted on the fire wall with some hoses coming off it one goes to the vacuum tanks and booster the other is supposed to go to the engine probably the intake manifold not sure what else is missing.
#54
06-20-2022, 04:53 AM
I know this thread was posted ages ago but my reply might help anyone else who needs to figure out what the model numbers mean on Dodge AT4. Well firstly AT4 stands for Australian Truck Series 4, much the same way as an AP2, AP5 etc stands for "Australian Production" chryslers e.g aussie chrysler royal (AP2) and aussie chrysler valiants (AP5 AP6).
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey
Ok, the model numbers are as follows. Your example Dodge AT4 329 , the 329 - first digit tonnage, second and third are wheelbase + 100"......i.e 3 tonner with 129" wheelbase. Another example, Dodge AT4 575 is a 5 tonner with 175" wheelbase, AT4 114 is a 1 tonner with 114" wheelbase. Commers used a similar system.
For models from 460 up, AT4-460 for example would indicate a V8 engine and AT4-460-6 would indicate it was a 6 cylinder version.
From this we can deduce that an AT4 690 is a 6 tonner with a 190" wheelbase (and V8 engine). Also, an AT4 760D would indicate a 7 tonner, 160" wheelbase and Diesel engine (D for diesel).
The 225 slant six engine was available from 1962 and was replaced by the Hemi 245 in 1970 and used in AT4 114, 129, 229, 329, 353, 460-6, 475-6, 560-6, 575-6.
The 313 V8 Poly engine was used from 1962 to 1964 and replaced in 1965 by the 318 V8. V8 engines were used in AT4-460, 475, 560, 575, 660, 675, 690.
The Perkins 6.354 (6 cyl 354 cid Diesel) was available as an option on AT4 660, 675, 690.
The 361 V8 and Cummins 160 (6 cyl 464 cid 160HP diesel) were only available in AT4 760 and 775
This info came from an AT4 parts catalogue with model identification that was kindly sent to me. Production of the AT4 ran from 1962 to about 1972 when replaced by the single headlight D5N... D5N i think simply stands for Dodge series 5, N-normal control (bonnetted truck). The D2F was the dodge version of the Commer after chrysler took over Rootes Group (series 2, F- Forward control)...and these were available with 361 V8 and Cummins 185 (470 cid V8 diesel)...but we digress! hehe. The D might have also coincided with the D series internationals as dodge and inter shared the same cabs and were built at the chrysler factory at South Australia from 1962 onwards as has been mentioned in other posts.
I'm actually in the process of producing models of the AT4 series in kit form in 1/43rd scale. They will be of the AT4 560-6 as a 6 cyl (225 cid) table top and AT4 775 (361 V8) single drive prime mover (a common configuration for these). Prime movers had shortened wheelbases.
Hope this info helps. I'm also researching paint codes for the AT4 so that the models can be painted in authentic original or fleet colours, so if anyone has any info please post them, especially the aussie code for Dodge truck Red.
The codes i have so far are :
8623 - white
7239 - green/aqua
13211 - a fleet colour, i think it was telecom orange?
5259 - Dodge Truck Green
7238 - ?
Mousey
#56
04-14-2023, 08:34 PM
