A good cold air is 7hp ... most of the ram airs especially dual pipes ect run into more restrictions ect due to the bends ect they rob more power then they make

 

I think I might try to figure out how much hp gain or reduction our cars would get CAI Vs same tubing with one more bend ram air, with the equations the engineer had on that page. I.E. before with cold air intake then after with the filter mounted into the bottom right port boxed in and show picture and gains if it work out being better.

My cold air intake sits very very close to that port. I would only need about 2 inches of pipe then a little larger than 90 degree bend and maybe an inch or 2 more after the bend. Should be pretty cheap to do just a small pipe with a bend and maybe some sheet metal or something along those lines kind of molded around the opening.

small gains aren't a bad thing, but of course bigger gains would be better.
I think I read once anything under 5hp gain you can't feel anyways, but there is a difference even if you don't feel it.

any gain with our cars is a good thing as there are not many options for cheap hp gains

 

Actualy ram air starts to work at about 60 mph. I installed it with great success in my dakota. Its not going to give you a huge hp jump but done right you should see about +15 hp.

In order to do it right you are going to need to run some kind of piping (flexable plastic inkake pipes they have at auto zone work great) into a SEALED filterbox from any location on the car that is subjected to winds while driving (ie. hood scoop, behind the grille, fog lamp ports...). The idea is that the wind created by the car moving at 60+ mph will force more than normal amounts of air into the engine intake.

There is no way to loose anything by setting up ram air on your car. At the very least it will function exactly like a CAI at low speeds. Also there are no way that bends in the intake will negitivly affect the quantity of air that is moving. If this were true than all the turbo fanatics in the world would be making they're intake as straight as posible rather than running a masive amount of pipes so that they can get a intercooler in exactly the right spot.

 

ya highway speeds are more why I want more hp. I take off great, but still have to floor it passing on the highway.

i'm going to put it in the fog light port and put a mesh sort of cover in front of it to help keep out bugs and dirt out.

The engineer said something along the lines of at 70mph it adds 1 psi of boost with the ram air which equates to .5% hp so there would be smaller gains at lower speeds but not noticeably at all.

 

Trust me, you will definatly feel it.

 

I felt no difference and you must worry about ingesting water and hydrolocking the motor

 

I have a 99 2.5 V6 avenger and I am wanting to turbo it, but I do not know if that is even possible. I have a little 10 psi turbo, but I am wondering what else I will need to do to turbo it. I am looking for advice, since I don't really know what I am doing. I want to do it right, don't want to destroy my engine.

 

there have only been a dozen turbo venges built , there were two companies doing them Exile Racing and Disturbing motorsports , both are out of business ...
you'll need a turbo manifold built , oil lines to cool the turbo intercooler and piping
way to compensate fuel ect ect

 

I found this kit on ebay, but not sure how easy the conversion would be. Does not include manifold or down pipe. If the link below is a forum violation please remove it. It was for info only.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-GT...=mtr#vi-ilComp

 

I found this while surfing the web. It appears to be a turbo 2.5L v6.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/687774...dodge-avenger/