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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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I just finished up putting a whole new exhaust on my avenger, I put on new downpipe, Had a nasty leak, high flow cat converter and bosal catback. It sounds awesome and gained some horses, but I still want more. I also have a cold air intake. So I'm guessing I'm up to about maybe 175-190hp. I am hoping to get above 200hp, but for as cheap as possible after just dropping alot on the new exhaust.

I have been looking at some of those electric supercharger's on ebay. They advertise 2-3psi boost. Anyone know what gains I could get out of that. Seems to me It would only be maybe 10-15hp as I know you get about 88bhp out of around 18psi, but I'm not sure if that would be different because its on a different car and a turbo? I don't have any idea about turbos and super chargers. I have read about them, but what the psi to hp is.

or if anyone knows where a can get a cheaper kit non-intercooled so I don't have to find a spot for it in the small crowned engine compartment, maybe self-oiled so I don't have to tap the oil pan, although the oil pan gasket is leaking so it might not be a bad idea

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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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There is only ONE electric turbo/SC that works ... Knight turbo system

And there is no such thing as a cheap turbo for the 2.5 ...
Most are using the Ripp Mods SC for the 3.0 and modifying it for the 2.5
ones for sale on another board
 
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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Holy crap ya 2000$ for the ripp mods supercharger. So your saying that electric one on ebay is just a joke then? It looks to me like it would force some air in. I would rather have 2-3psi boost for 50$ compared to 6psi to not sure what for 2000$. I mean if it has the same diameter tubing to fit the intake and is forcing some air up there shouldn't it be giving some boost? I'm just looking for a cheap way to add a little more power without swapping out the engine or anything more than about 100$.

I know a few things I can do, but all are expensive. bigger fuel injectors w/ fuel rails, pump etc. headers, but I think thats a group buy thing and I just got a new downpipe. Sending my computer to someplace in california to get reprogrammed. or underdrive pulleys, but they don't make them for our cars. There isn't really anything else I can think of but forcing more air in.
Makes you wonder why dodge just didn't put a bigger engine in these to start with. awesome looking car No power.

If the one for sale is cheaper than 100$ i'll take it, but i'm highly highly doubting that.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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no he's asking $2500 ... if it was $100 I would have bought it ...

The 3.0 swap is the best bang for the buck ...

and of course NOS is the next cheapest HP adder
 
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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im looking at the e-ram electric supercharger with 15 hp gains garrented but im worried about it also. I only have the 4 banger 2.0 so i say take what you can get. I really need one to get up hills. lol. NOS would get me up the hills to but im also on a budget.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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JUNK JUNK JUNK It's a Marine Bilge blower it does NOTHING

The ONLY electric supercharger tat works is from knight turbo systems and it requires THREE batteries and can only be used in short bursts
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Hp is not cheap. If your looking for a cheap way to add hp then your best bet is to assemble your own ram air. I was thinking about doing this by running 1 or 2 intake pipes into a filter box from the fog light ports. that is the cheapest hp your gonna get. otherwise you need to spend at least $1500 on a cheap turbo system or something. I can sympathize, I hate spending money but that is the only solution worth doing.

To Dano62: our 2.0's will take to a turbo fairly easily (as easy a turbo conversion can get). You can get 275 Hp from as little as 8-12 PSI. If you keep the boost low (no higher than 12 psi) than all you will need is the turbo, 550 cc injectors and fuel pump. I would recommend hitting up dsmtuners.com they have quite a few converts on there. I know that site is all Eagle Talons and Mitsu Eclipses but under the hood they are the same as ours. You will find alot of help there.
 

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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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so the ram air would that be using the conical filter facing forward in the fog light ports running one to each side? or is there something else that I would need to do also?

My cold air intake already runs down very close to that area on the right side looking from the front and im sure I could design a pipe to the other side, go to a muffler shop and get them to make some bends for me
 
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I'm sorry ... ram air wont get you near enough air till over 100 mph and even then it's not nearly going to add big numbers
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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I was actually reading in the durango section of these forums and some engineer got was talking about equations. He can came up with 1/2% hp gain at 70mph which for our cars would mean about 8 hp, but im not sure what improvement that would be over the CAI already installed.
 
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