You're right. I guess we can thank toyota for that one! :P Read my post above this one and I do a better job of expaining what I originally meant.

BTW, that dakota is 2wd :P

 

I know, I was just showing an example of a TIB swap, which is very similar to TTB.

 

I like the TTB and see that it can be built pretty beefy, plus it wouldn't require coilvers (unless I could somehow fit coils AND a shock n the a-arm) but it looks like it could be a pain to get set and that it might eat tires pretty quickly...

then again, long travel ifs would be a lot of work... I guess i'll have to read more, and price things out.

 

TTB's CAN be good, but they can also suck horribly. They usually have tire wear issues, and if not done properly can break quite easily, although the idea behind it is inherently no weaker than IFS. Theres quite a bit of engineering to get TTB working correctly, and most people ignore that(including many lift manufacturers)when they build these axles.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FOX-1...item2a020695c4

No springs, but I figured that's a great price for two. Is a 2" di. shock going to be too small? I noticed it says for buggy's ect. I figure I won't be doing any comp. crawling, would those still be too light-duty?

 

To be honest, I have no idea! I've never researched building these kinds of vehicles. Maybe someone else on here has an answer for you, but your best bet might be search offroad topic forums where people discuss prerunners.

 

Proper Steering angles are important. It's really not that hard set up TTB. I align mine myself using my eyes and a tape measure and I run straight down the road and have never had tire wear issues.

 

While that may work for you it doesnt mean its the rule. I know just as many people with bad angles as I do with good. I cant tell you the number of ford ttb axles I know that look like a tee pee around town.

Again...Im not arguing against the idea. Merely pointing out areas of interest.

 

There are plenty of 4x4 prerunners out there. I think Long travel suspension, particularly IFS, and big coilover shocks and air bumps are some defining features of a prerunner. It really helps control the vehicle at high speeds when the fronts are spinning.

Longer arms are fairly easy to fabricate, a 2wd Dakota prerunner would not be rocket science to a builder. Especially with the fenders available to these trucks.

A 4wd truck poses the issue of longer axles. Not impossible, just more expensive.

I have a 4runner that is sort of a hybrid. I wanted to retain IFS, but still go fast and have more travel for crawling. Longer arms is THE best way to get travel out of IFS. Anything else compromises geometry or cv angles.

Here are some pics of the Deathrunner:

http://roughroadfabrication.com/death_runner.html


Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tK0bcMR8ro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps8C6lh7x8E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFcEK764BBc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY7SHyqZucQ


It was also featured in the Feb 2010 issue of Toyota 4wd owner magazine:

http://www.yotatech.com/f5/congrats-deathrunner-202103/