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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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So i picked up a 87 dakota 4x4 v6 last night. It runs good however the steering wheel has ALOT of play. I looked at it today and it is in the steering shaft where the slip joint is. Now ive looked online and am unable to find a replacement shaft. What is the fix for this? Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Maybe a junkyard or ebay? I believe there are places that can custom build you a steering shaft, but I don't know of any off the top of my head. Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Ebay, kijiji, craigslist, and the wreckers are your friend here
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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What about just tack welding the two together?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by siguy2k
What about just tack welding the two together?
it is a slip joint for a reason, it needs to slip.
remove it and weld onto it, then grind the welded parts to original dimensions. Or take the parts to a fab shop, they will make it good as new.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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it is a slip joint for a reason, it needs to slip.
remove it and weld onto it, then grind the welded parts to original dimensions. Or take the parts to a fab shop, they will make it good as new.
Why does it need to slip tho? It doesn't move with suspension.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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yes, it does....
the shaft is attached to the rack and pinion which is attached to the frame crossmember, and the steering shaft is fixed in place under the dash, a body part.
There is movement between between the frame and body, not a lot, but definitely some, and you can see it by getting up close to it while someone else applies a lot of weight to the body and bounces it up and down.
There is also some issues with universal joints in steering shafts if there isn't some slip allowed. Frame and body cushions/bushings also allow some movement.
If you take out the slip, you are inviting a locked up steering mechanism, a scary thing when you go to turn and it jams on you.
You would also feel a lot of road vibration at the steering wheel without the slip joint.
Cars without Rack/Pinion steering will have a "rag joint" that allows slip and mutes vibrations from the road. A rag joint looks like a chunk cut out of a tire, part rubber, part cloth....
 

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bill55az
yes, it does....
the shaft is attached to the rack and pinion which is attached to the frame crossmember, and the steering shaft is fixed in place under the dash, a body part.
There is movement between between the frame and body, not a lot, but definitely some, and you can see it by getting up close to it while someone else applies a lot of weight to the body and bounces it up and down.
There is also some issues with universal joints in steering shafts if there isn't some slip allowed. Frame and body cushions/bushings also allow some movement.
If you take out the slip, you are inviting a locked up steering mechanism, a scary thing when you go to turn and it jams on you.
You would also feel a lot of road vibration at the steering wheel without the slip joint.
Cars without Rack/Pinion steering will have a "rag joint" that allows slip and mutes vibrations from the road. A rag joint looks like a chunk cut out of a tire, part rubber, part cloth....
Its 4x4. No rack and pinion.
 
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Originally Posted by siguy2k
Its 4x4. No rack and pinion.
still, if it came with a slip joint, it needs a slip joint....
 
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