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Old 05-13-2019, 03:47 PM
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Hey all! First post after reading for years...

Got rid of both my Cummins, and now am the proud owner of a 1996 Dakota. Runs great, very satisfied with it.

Checked tranny fluid the other day, looked dark and low and the shifting was a little clunky, so I decided to drop the tranny pan and change the filter.

It's been difficult to figure out which tranny I have, have seen some places saying 42re, others 44re, others 45rfe, others 46re. I ordered a filter and gasket that should fit 42/44/45, got 5L of mopar 4+, watched vids and read threads and went to it. I've done the 46re on a 2008 Cummins and it was no big deal.

This one, however, has me stumped. The pan won't come out!! Theres not enough space between the exhaust Y and the rear frame cross member to wiggle the pan out. I even unbolted the frame member and knocked it down and back 0.5-1 inch, and still no dice.

Have seen some places say to take off front drive shaft, but that doesn't seem to be in the way, and I can't get the frame member all the way out without a Porto power spreader. The exhaust clamp and flange bolts are rusted to high hell and I feel like they will just shear off if I put any torque to them.

All the videos I've looked at show way more space in this area like the pan should just drop out. Also, the filter is a thin sheet of fabric rather than the 3/4" thick metal doodad I ordered.

My questions:
what tranny do I have? Pan has 14 bolts.
How do i get this @#$% pan out? Do I need to get a Porto power and drop out the frame, or should I risk undoing the rusty exhaust Y?

Any and all help is appreciated.
1996 Dakota v8 5.2? 4x4

Thanks,
Chris
 
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:57 PM
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will be a 46RE, externally the same as the 48RE in your Cummins. May have to drop the Y pipe (stupid I know) I had to do that with 1 of mine. at least no studs in manifold, they are thru bolts, like 3/8" X 2-1/2 or so. get up in there with a Dremel if you have to and cut them between the flange on the manifold and the flange on the Y pipe. Mighty only have to do pass side and then get enuf flex out of it that the driver side can be left alone.
dropping the cross member DOES NOT require a porta power to get out, done it a few times myself/ but it aint gonna help you any in getting that pan out, anyways. that Y pipe is tougher than you think. it isn't a high grade of it but it is stainless.... much better material than plain old aluminized steel, better than any aftermarket Y pipe will be made of.....
 
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:45 PM
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Thanks volaredon! That did the trick! Nothing broken or mangled either so I'm ahead of the curve.

One more quick question. Is there any gasket material on the exhaust Y flange joints, or is it just a flare fitting kind of deal?

 
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:56 PM
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... that Y pipe is tougher than you think. it isn't a high grade of it but it is stainless.... much better material than plain old aluminized steel, better than any aftermarket Y pipe will be made of.....
I dunno, the Magnaflow stainless Y pipe is pretty darn good material.

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I dunno, the Magnaflow stainless Y pipe is pretty darn good material.

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yeah but I don't see most "typical average" Dakota owners going for Magnaflow , for most it would be Walker or Maremont….. those are most common brands of replacement exhaust
 
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yeah but I don't see most "typical average" Dakota owners going for Magnaflow , for most it would be Walker or Maremont….. those are most common brands of replacement exhaust
When Magnaflow is the ONLY brand available ...

Walker and Maremont don't list Y pipes for a 1988 anymore.

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Old 05-15-2019, 06:56 AM
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didn't realize that, have never had to replace a Y pipe on any Dakota yet but have done lots of exhaust in my jobs I have worked over the years, living in the middle of the Salt belt contributes to that.... I hate winter. and your typical "chain" auto repair place ( worked at Sears for 13 years) doesn't get into "performance" exhaust.... all OEM stock type replacement stuff used there.....
 

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