1st Gen Dakota Tech 1987 - 1996 Dodge Dakota Tech - The ultimate forum for technical help on the 1st Gen Dakota.

U bolt flip

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-06-2009, 03:10 PM
stesul411's Avatar
stesul411
stesul411 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Western PA
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default U bolt flip

Here's an easy way to pick up a little ground clearance around the leaf springs on a 4X4 Dakota, a U-bolt flip.
The U-bolts on the Dakota rear axle are mounted with the nuts pointing down, which can hang up on rocks and logs when 4 wheelin. Here is a cheap easy way to do a flip. 1993-2001 Jeep Cherokees share the Chrysler Corporate 8.25 rear axle use the same width leaf springs as a Dakota. On the Cherokee the U-bolt nuts face UP. A trip to a wrecking yard/dealer for a pair of Cherokee spring plates, new u-bolts/nuts from a spring shop/auto parts store (ask for 93+ Cherokee u-bolts) and a few hours under your truck and you can eliminate one more place to snag the rear axle.

A few more Cherokee/Comanchee Dakota cross over parts:
87-90 wheels, both have 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern, also Ford Ranger/Explorer, and 80 and older 1/2 ton Ford and Dodge trucks/Ramchargers.

Leaf Springs, we make cheap AAL's for Jeep XJ/YJ's by cutting the spring eyes off of Dakota main leaves, the lower leaves will interchange.

V-8 Grand Cherokee rear disk brakes will mount to any MoPar 8.25 axle housing, although you'll have to redrill the rotors for 6 bolt axles and emergency brake cables will have to be fabricated.

Rear shocks, Dakota and Jeep XJ share the same mounting styles.

Tail lights, Comanchee and Dakota are the same.

Rear Bumper, Comanchee and Dakota are the same.

Rear Axle, Cherokee/Comanchee and Dakota share the same axle dimentions right down to the spring pirches. Dakota has a larger drum. A D44 was available in 89 and older Cherokees (very hard to find), an aluminun D44 was available in the Grand Cherokee, they are JUNK, but thats where you'll find the disk brakes.
 

Last edited by stesul411; 03-06-2009 at 03:12 PM.
  #2  
Old 03-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Crazy4x4RT's Avatar
Crazy4x4RT
Crazy4x4RT is offline
Hall Of Fame
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NM
Posts: 10,926
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Yes this is a great way to gain ground clearance. The easyest way is to get the setup from a 2wd dakota, top plate and u-bolts (If still good), or get new ones at most autoparts stores. I will post this up in the FAQ2.


Here is a pic of mine to show how its done.

 

Last edited by Crazy4x4RT; 03-06-2009 at 08:52 PM.
  #3  
Old 03-06-2009, 03:43 PM
stesul411's Avatar
stesul411
stesul411 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Western PA
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

AHH, looks like the same spring plate as a Jeep Cherokee, guess I'll have to look at the 92 a little closer.
 
  #4  
Old 03-07-2009, 12:56 AM
Blue 12's Avatar
Blue 12
Blue 12 is offline
Professional
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NB Canada
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

good info. i might look into getting disk brakes, i have the ground clearance thing covered
 
  #5  
Old 06-21-2009, 02:06 AM
dodge15004x45.9's Avatar
dodge15004x45.9
dodge15004x45.9 is offline
Legend
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Malvern Pa - Canadensis Pa
Posts: 7,950
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Do u need the spring plate? I want to to this on my 01 1500.
 
  #6  
Old 06-21-2009, 04:40 AM
Crazy4x4RT's Avatar
Crazy4x4RT
Crazy4x4RT is offline
Hall Of Fame
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NM
Posts: 10,926
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

For the Dakota yes you do. For the ram I'm sure it's going to be the same. Your best bet is to get a plate off of a 2wd. They are reverse. Again I don't know for sure about a ram.
 
  #7  
Old 06-21-2009, 09:04 PM
Hahns5.2's Avatar
Hahns5.2
Hahns5.2 is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Battle Ground WA
Posts: 2,181
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

A correction. The vast majority of XJs have D35 rears, but tube/u-bolt size is probably the same.

Mine was already converted because my axle is from a 2WD Dakota, I know this because I can tell the spring perches were cut off and relocated.
 
  #8  
Old 09-06-2009, 03:20 PM
spring man's Avatar
spring man
spring man is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default u bolt flip

For any one that reads this just remember one of the reasons the use square u bolts is because the axle tubes are not all that strong and you can crush the tube or wear a hole through it like I have seen. Same reason they use two center oins on the newer 3/4 an 1 ton Dodges They had to do this because you can't us 5/8 ubolts on these axles you can crush them.
 
  #9  
Old 09-06-2009, 03:31 PM
95_318SLT's Avatar
95_318SLT
95_318SLT is offline
Champion
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Apex, NC
Posts: 4,842
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Lol, guess again dude. The reason they use square bolts is because they fit over the square pack of leaf springs like so...

DSCN0264.jpg?t=1252265633

The cars/trucks that use round ubolts have them going over the axle and not the leaf springs like in Crazy's picture up above.

If you honestly think that these axles can be crushed, then tell me why I have had my truck sitting on jack stands positioned on the axle housing for a week at a time. If anything will crush them, it would be the weight of the truck sitting on about 1 square inch of jack stand.
 

Last edited by 95_318SLT; 09-06-2009 at 03:34 PM.
  #10  
Old 09-06-2009, 09:59 PM
razor rc's Avatar
razor rc
razor rc is offline
Amateur
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: shanksville pennsylvania
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hahns5.2
A correction. The vast majority of XJs have D35 rears, but tube/u-bolt size is probably the same.
actually your wrong, up until about 1990 they had the Dana 35 under the rear, 1991 and newer had the Chrysler 8.25 under them. the Dana 35 and Chrysler 8.25 u bolts are different.
 


Quick Reply: U bolt flip



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 AM.