Front Wheel Alignment
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Front Wheel Alignment
Hi,
just had my upper front suspension bushings replaced...followed with a wheel alignment.
technician appeared to nail it on the first attempt when I took the D for a test drive - didn't pull and stopped straight - however the steering wheel wasn't aligned properly.
I can't stand it when I'm driving straight with the steering when isn't horizontal - it does my ****ing brain in....!!
There wasn't time to get it tracked on the machine again so he did a one third turn on the track rods and I took it for a drive. Still drives and stops straight, but now the steering resistance seems a lot higher when you turn the wheel.
I need to take it back to him, but I want to be able to describe this in terms he'll understand...
Chris
just had my upper front suspension bushings replaced...followed with a wheel alignment.
technician appeared to nail it on the first attempt when I took the D for a test drive - didn't pull and stopped straight - however the steering wheel wasn't aligned properly.
I can't stand it when I'm driving straight with the steering when isn't horizontal - it does my ****ing brain in....!!
There wasn't time to get it tracked on the machine again so he did a one third turn on the track rods and I took it for a drive. Still drives and stops straight, but now the steering resistance seems a lot higher when you turn the wheel.
I need to take it back to him, but I want to be able to describe this in terms he'll understand...
Chris
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If the "track rods" are the same as the tie rod ends then only the toe was changed. If you are wanting it right then you can easily do it yourself. I do.
I use two 3ft long pieces of angle iron sitting on anything I have to support them about 10inches off the ground against each wheel. I use a tape measure to measure the distance from one side to the other in front of the wheels and then behind the wheels. Subtract the two numbers and it gives the toe.
I can accurately measure the toe to less than 1/16th inch and it's repeatable. By repeatable I mean that I can set it then drive it then check it again the next day and get the same measurement.
I know you think the shop should make it right but it's quicker and easier than going back to the shop even one time. What if you have to go twice? How much time are you wasting?
I'll give you guyz a chance to call BS on this before i waste any more words. If not then I can give more details on aligning the steering wheel.
I use two 3ft long pieces of angle iron sitting on anything I have to support them about 10inches off the ground against each wheel. I use a tape measure to measure the distance from one side to the other in front of the wheels and then behind the wheels. Subtract the two numbers and it gives the toe.
I can accurately measure the toe to less than 1/16th inch and it's repeatable. By repeatable I mean that I can set it then drive it then check it again the next day and get the same measurement.
I know you think the shop should make it right but it's quicker and easier than going back to the shop even one time. What if you have to go twice? How much time are you wasting?
I'll give you guyz a chance to call BS on this before i waste any more words. If not then I can give more details on aligning the steering wheel.
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however, if you just paid for an alignment, it is expected that they also true up the steering wheel.
Make them fix it. Afterall, they got paid to do the work right the first time. Don't BS around with bars, rulers, math, etc. Your CASH should have done all that for you already.
IndyD
Make them fix it. Afterall, they got paid to do the work right the first time. Don't BS around with bars, rulers, math, etc. Your CASH should have done all that for you already.
IndyD
Last edited by IndyDurango; 06-03-2009 at 11:17 PM.
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however, if you just paid for an alignment, it is expected that they also true up the steering wheel.
Make them fix it. Afterall, they got paid to do the work right the first time. Don't BS around with bars, rulers, math, etc. Your CASH should have done all that for you already.
IndyD
Make them fix it. Afterall, they got paid to do the work right the first time. Don't BS around with bars, rulers, math, etc. Your CASH should have done all that for you already.
IndyD
The only thing I was saying is that basiclly how the old guys did it.
#9
I disagree.
Many years ago I was talking to a guy at work about a similar issue. I was insisting that if someone paid to have something done then the person being paid should do the work. This wise old guy said "the guy getting paid to do the work may not be capable of doing it"
You can kindly ask to have the job done right, you can get upset and insist, or use any other persuation but you still can't force anybody to do anything. You can insist justice be done but you will pay for it. How much are you willing to pay?
Since Chris hasn't posted again, I predict that he will take his D back to the shop and everything will be fixed. Hopefully, he will report back with the good news.
Many years ago I was talking to a guy at work about a similar issue. I was insisting that if someone paid to have something done then the person being paid should do the work. This wise old guy said "the guy getting paid to do the work may not be capable of doing it"
You can kindly ask to have the job done right, you can get upset and insist, or use any other persuation but you still can't force anybody to do anything. You can insist justice be done but you will pay for it. How much are you willing to pay?
Since Chris hasn't posted again, I predict that he will take his D back to the shop and everything will be fixed. Hopefully, he will report back with the good news.
#10
I disagree.
Many years ago I was talking to a guy at work about a similar issue. I was insisting that if someone paid to have something done then the person being paid should do the work. This wise old guy said "the guy getting paid to do the work may not be capable of doing it"
You can kindly ask to have the job done right, you can get upset and insist, or use any other persuation but you still can't force anybody to do anything. You can insist justice be done but you will pay for it. How much are you willing to pay?
Since Chris hasn't posted again, I predict that he will take his D back to the shop and everything will be fixed. Hopefully, he will report back with the good news.
Many years ago I was talking to a guy at work about a similar issue. I was insisting that if someone paid to have something done then the person being paid should do the work. This wise old guy said "the guy getting paid to do the work may not be capable of doing it"
You can kindly ask to have the job done right, you can get upset and insist, or use any other persuation but you still can't force anybody to do anything. You can insist justice be done but you will pay for it. How much are you willing to pay?
Since Chris hasn't posted again, I predict that he will take his D back to the shop and everything will be fixed. Hopefully, he will report back with the good news.
This is why I paid for a Lifetime Wheel Aglinment from Firestone. I personally have found this issue you are talking about and if I don't like it or don't think they can get the job done right then you take it to a different fasility. This is the reason you go with a national chain for this type of work. There has to be someone else that has compitance.
Besides Chris will be back. He hangs around here more than one thinks.