Misfire after new Champion Copper
#1
Misfire after new Champion Copper
Hi,
New guy here. I have an '03 4.7L Durango with some problems.
If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it.
I've been having some misfire issues lately, possibly other issues but not sure. Engine started stuttering on takeoff, and got progressively worse every day until I got a misfire code the other day. So I replaced the plugs(bought the new E3 'power' plugs thinking they would work. This was before I found this forum). Same problem as before. Not as bad but same problem. I did some research, found you guys and read to use the Champion Copper plugs only. So I bought and installed those after work today and still seems to be having the same problem. This time im getting multiple/random misfires code.
It shakes when stopped at a light. Stutters on takeoff and has no power whatsoever. I also noticed the volt meter on the dash is reading higher voltage than normal. Not sure if this has anything do with my current problem, but maybe it does...
I'm assuming that replacing the coils is the next step, but don't want to spend money I don't need to...
Thanks in advance everyone!
New guy here. I have an '03 4.7L Durango with some problems.
If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it.
I've been having some misfire issues lately, possibly other issues but not sure. Engine started stuttering on takeoff, and got progressively worse every day until I got a misfire code the other day. So I replaced the plugs(bought the new E3 'power' plugs thinking they would work. This was before I found this forum). Same problem as before. Not as bad but same problem. I did some research, found you guys and read to use the Champion Copper plugs only. So I bought and installed those after work today and still seems to be having the same problem. This time im getting multiple/random misfires code.
It shakes when stopped at a light. Stutters on takeoff and has no power whatsoever. I also noticed the volt meter on the dash is reading higher voltage than normal. Not sure if this has anything do with my current problem, but maybe it does...
I'm assuming that replacing the coils is the next step, but don't want to spend money I don't need to...
Thanks in advance everyone!
#2
try putting some seafoam in the gas tank to clean the injectors up before you go onto replacing the coils, and also check the elctrical connections on both the injectors, coils, and at all the sensors, pcm and the grounds (pretty much every connection)
and about the battery, it COULD be related if the battery is dieing it causes all sorts of problems, if it is more than 4 years old i would just replace it but you can have it load tested if you dont want to jump right into replacing it
and about the battery, it COULD be related if the battery is dieing it causes all sorts of problems, if it is more than 4 years old i would just replace it but you can have it load tested if you dont want to jump right into replacing it
#3
I forgot to mention that I also put injector cleaner in the tank when I filled up yesterday. Would seafoam do anything different?
I made sure to check the connections on the injectors, coils & sensors on the throttle body when I was changing plugs again this evening. I will check the PCM connection tomorrow.
If I have a good pcm connection & the battery tests good, what would you suggest for my next step?
Thanks again.
- Dave
I made sure to check the connections on the injectors, coils & sensors on the throttle body when I was changing plugs again this evening. I will check the PCM connection tomorrow.
If I have a good pcm connection & the battery tests good, what would you suggest for my next step?
Thanks again.
- Dave
#4
Not to scare you, but I've heard some guys that talk about shaking and misfiring also finding rocker arms lying loose under the valve cover...
I have the same rig as you. I've been getting a misfire code here and there but I can hardly tell/feel it when it happens. I changed plugs, switched coil from #2 misfiring cyl. to #4, still got misfire, swapped the #2 injector to another cyl, changed to synthetic oil and nothing has worked yet. Altho it has been alot longer in between misfire CELs.
There's a ton of good info around here, so you are def. in the right place...
I have the same rig as you. I've been getting a misfire code here and there but I can hardly tell/feel it when it happens. I changed plugs, switched coil from #2 misfiring cyl. to #4, still got misfire, swapped the #2 injector to another cyl, changed to synthetic oil and nothing has worked yet. Altho it has been alot longer in between misfire CELs.
There's a ton of good info around here, so you are def. in the right place...
#7
I forgot to mention that I also put injector cleaner in the tank when I filled up yesterday. Would seafoam do anything different?
I made sure to check the connections on the injectors, coils & sensors on the throttle body when I was changing plugs again this evening. I will check the PCM connection tomorrow.
If I have a good pcm connection & the battery tests good, what would you suggest for my next step?
Thanks again.
- Dave
I made sure to check the connections on the injectors, coils & sensors on the throttle body when I was changing plugs again this evening. I will check the PCM connection tomorrow.
If I have a good pcm connection & the battery tests good, what would you suggest for my next step?
Thanks again.
- Dave
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#8
My 02 Durango went through the same problem: #2 misfire. Replaced plugs (all...since it had 93/k), coil pack, fuel injection cleaner thru the injector rails...and it kept showing up after 1-2 days. Ended up replacing the injector itself for #2 cylinder ($52.00) and that solved the problem. Hasn't showed the check engine light for 3 weeks.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
#9
with the engine running you can pull the individual spark plug from each cylinder. doing this you will hear the engine struggle a bit until you put the plug back in. If you pull the plug off a cylinder and it doesn't fumble as much as the others then you know what cylinder to be looking at.. you can also look at the color and wear of the old spark plugs to see if you have any other major issues.. compare the color to a chart you can find on google or something pretty easy.. If you have a multimeter you can check individual injectors by pulling the plug off the injector and reading the resistance(ohms DC) between the injector's electrical prongs. it will normally be between like 12-16 ohms i think for dodge injectors, but that,s a guess without looking it up.. If you have one injector thats not putting out the same as another then you know which one isn't pulling its weight..
#10
Well, I had a long day at work today so didn't feel like messing with it this afternoon. But, after reading your post SumAmerican, I did notice that some of the E3 plugs had some carbon buildup after running just 2 days. Didn't really think too much of it, though I probably should have. Is this another clue to a spark problem. Unburnt fuel causing buildup?
I really appreciate all the help everyone.
I really appreciate all the help everyone.