Headlight replacement
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Headlight replacement
My headlights are well far out of shape. The color is yellow ( yes I tried the cleaner stuff but not everything ) and I can see film all over it. Any how I am planning on installing a HID kit later this year (probably in Spring). I was wondering do you need special headlamps to do this or can I use these?
Anzo Headlights
Brand: Anzo
Material: Plastic lens
Design: Multi-reflector
Type: Composite
Color/Finish: Crystal clear lens
Bulb Included: With bulb(s)
Quantity Sold: Set of 2
Light Source: Halogen
Certification: DOT, SAE approved
Product Fit: Direct fit
Warranty: 1-year Anzo unlimited warranty
ANZO HEADLIGHTS, CRYSTAL CLEAR LENS, SET OF 2 -- Bulbs included; SAE and DOT compliant to FMVSS-108; With chrome housing; Computer designed to add safety and stylish appearance to the vehicle's exterior; Features OEM style weather-tight connections; Produces a stronger beam compared to OE headlights; Changes the look of the vehicle by adding a clean, modern, and symmetrical style; Tested in simulated rain, humidity, and shock to ensure quality; Easy plug and play installation; With 1-year Anzo unlimited warranty.
Or is there any hard modifications if I was to install these? I could get direct OEM replacements but those are 110.00 per side brand new.
The HID Kit I am looking at is - http://www.carhidkits.com/xenon-hid-...d-kit-208.html
Anzo Headlights
Brand: Anzo
Material: Plastic lens
Design: Multi-reflector
Type: Composite
Color/Finish: Crystal clear lens
Bulb Included: With bulb(s)
Quantity Sold: Set of 2
Light Source: Halogen
Certification: DOT, SAE approved
Product Fit: Direct fit
Warranty: 1-year Anzo unlimited warranty
ANZO HEADLIGHTS, CRYSTAL CLEAR LENS, SET OF 2 -- Bulbs included; SAE and DOT compliant to FMVSS-108; With chrome housing; Computer designed to add safety and stylish appearance to the vehicle's exterior; Features OEM style weather-tight connections; Produces a stronger beam compared to OE headlights; Changes the look of the vehicle by adding a clean, modern, and symmetrical style; Tested in simulated rain, humidity, and shock to ensure quality; Easy plug and play installation; With 1-year Anzo unlimited warranty.
Or is there any hard modifications if I was to install these? I could get direct OEM replacements but those are 110.00 per side brand new.
The HID Kit I am looking at is - http://www.carhidkits.com/xenon-hid-...d-kit-208.html
Those are great headlights and you can see much clearer. I would hold off on the HID kit until you get the head light fixtures in because it will most likely be the same size bulb, but not always.
Installing these is identical to installing the OEM and is very simple.
Installing these is identical to installing the OEM and is very simple.
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Please do not go this route.
Housings are designed with the refraction and intensity all being key factors in the housings and lenses and composed material. HID's are hotter and put out 5 times the lumen of a traditional incandescent halogen bulb. Hence why you have never seen a production vehicle with xenons that didn't have a projector lense. I would STRONGLY ***** fukin suggest you get a set of projectors to avoid melting your housings and setting your rig en fuego. Avoid plastic housing headlights at all cost, the outer shell can be as long as the lense housing is metal.
The second thing is the projector lenses take all the raw energy and focus is into a beam pattern furthering your light penetration and giving you a longer more precise light beam, HID's in stock halogen housings are like driving a with a bright bubble, goes maybe 50 feet vs. 200. Sure it's brighter, but you are blinding everyone else on the road and are just spewing light in every direction.
Housings are designed with the refraction and intensity all being key factors in the housings and lenses and composed material. HID's are hotter and put out 5 times the lumen of a traditional incandescent halogen bulb. Hence why you have never seen a production vehicle with xenons that didn't have a projector lense. I would STRONGLY ***** fukin suggest you get a set of projectors to avoid melting your housings and setting your rig en fuego. Avoid plastic housing headlights at all cost, the outer shell can be as long as the lense housing is metal.
The second thing is the projector lenses take all the raw energy and focus is into a beam pattern furthering your light penetration and giving you a longer more precise light beam, HID's in stock halogen housings are like driving a with a bright bubble, goes maybe 50 feet vs. 200. Sure it's brighter, but you are blinding everyone else on the road and are just spewing light in every direction.
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I will get these later next month and go with those halogens that are called ultra silver I think they are called and see what the outcome is. Worse case thought is 60 bucks or less for the light bulbs were a waste. The only reason I was looking at the HID kit posted is HID high beams are on it and not on the regular HID kits. I can hold off on that. Most likely a good or better than OEM buld with better headlamps will be suffice. If I went projector I'd go with the removal of the other piece and straight one piece but hearing headaches doing that I thought HID is best.
Swiss, that's interesting you state they will melt the housing, because I've had my housings (same ones as OP posted) with 12,000k HID kit and theres nothing out of the norm. HID bulbs actually generate less heat than halogen, because they only require 55w to power them.
I do agree with them blinding the other traffic that's why I'm not quite 100% for (although I do use them). Also, our generation Durango is a multi bulb, meaning it uses the same bulb for both Low-Beam and Hi-Beam. If its stating it's Hi-Beam then its typically referring that it's Hi-Beam friendly and you can use them with the HID.
Some info on HID vs Halogen:
http://www.squidoo.com/hid-bulbs-halogen-bulbs
I can't steer you for or against it, but if I were you I'd just got with some nice Silverstar Ultras or some high end PIAA ultra bulbs (I have Silverstar Ultra on my Ram 3500).
I do agree with them blinding the other traffic that's why I'm not quite 100% for (although I do use them). Also, our generation Durango is a multi bulb, meaning it uses the same bulb for both Low-Beam and Hi-Beam. If its stating it's Hi-Beam then its typically referring that it's Hi-Beam friendly and you can use them with the HID.
Some info on HID vs Halogen:
http://www.squidoo.com/hid-bulbs-halogen-bulbs
I can't steer you for or against it, but if I were you I'd just got with some nice Silverstar Ultras or some high end PIAA ultra bulbs (I have Silverstar Ultra on my Ram 3500).
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I'm only 40 years old, and my eyes are already extremely sensitive to bright light, and even more so when there's any sort of glare, such as on a rainy or snowy night. While I don't see them often, I see the super bright headlights every now and then, and when they're not properly aimed they can leave me unable to see the road for a good eighth of a mile...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying not to buy upgraded headlights. I want some myself. Just be responsible about it. Don't be the ******** with the poorly aimed headlights that blinds some dad and causes a minivan with a family of 5 to run off the road and kill 3 kids.
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What about changing the wattage of my bulbs?
Since Edison invented the first light bulb, people have always wanted brighter lights. The Department Of Transportation has set guidelines for us to follow if we want to drive on public roads. Your low beam is not to exceed 55 watts and high beams are not to exceed 60 watts. Since the 70's, people have been installing higher wattage bulbs in their vehicles to get more light and just like in your favorite desk lamp, if you change from a 50-watt bulb to a 100-watt bulb you get almost twice the light. It is legal to run higher wattage “off road” and many people use this type of bulb on the street, but we do not recommend it. If you want to run these types of bulbs, they are much brighter, but there are some things to think about. These bulbs produce more light and subsequently more heat. We have never heard of these type of bulbs harming any headlight lenses because most lenses are a high strength polycarbonate that is very resistant to both heat and impact. But because of the current draw, almost doubling it sometimes can put a strain on your wiring. Frequently check the connectors on the back of the bulbs to see if they are overheating or appear to be melting. If this occurs you will need to buy a heavy-duty wiring harness to run these bulbs like the ones made by Painless Wiring. This is a simple pre-terminated / already assembled wiring harness that takes less than half an hour to install. Do not buy those $10 wires. They are just ends and do not increase your system's capacity in any way.
Since Edison invented the first light bulb, people have always wanted brighter lights. The Department Of Transportation has set guidelines for us to follow if we want to drive on public roads. Your low beam is not to exceed 55 watts and high beams are not to exceed 60 watts. Since the 70's, people have been installing higher wattage bulbs in their vehicles to get more light and just like in your favorite desk lamp, if you change from a 50-watt bulb to a 100-watt bulb you get almost twice the light. It is legal to run higher wattage “off road” and many people use this type of bulb on the street, but we do not recommend it. If you want to run these types of bulbs, they are much brighter, but there are some things to think about. These bulbs produce more light and subsequently more heat. We have never heard of these type of bulbs harming any headlight lenses because most lenses are a high strength polycarbonate that is very resistant to both heat and impact. But because of the current draw, almost doubling it sometimes can put a strain on your wiring. Frequently check the connectors on the back of the bulbs to see if they are overheating or appear to be melting. If this occurs you will need to buy a heavy-duty wiring harness to run these bulbs like the ones made by Painless Wiring. This is a simple pre-terminated / already assembled wiring harness that takes less than half an hour to install. Do not buy those $10 wires. They are just ends and do not increase your system's capacity in any way.
I have seen housings melt with HID's, the bulb is longer and a totally different design with the insulator on the exterior of the bulb. It refracts light AND heat to different areas of the reflector,whether your reflector can take it and effectively use it is trial and error.
What i do is pull up to the garage door and mark your current beam out. swap the bulbs/housing wat ev you went with and then check it out. Are your beams in the same place? then adjust you screws to move the light pattern up/down,right/left.
OP, those housings are fine for a halogen up to 5K, however the HID Xenon gas technology uses a ballast to ignite the gas in the HID bulbs that produce light, halogens are using old fashion resistance to produce light and it does put a higher load on your wiring.
Personally I use 35w slim ballast HID's from DDM tuning, they are usually less than $50 shipped too.
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Did you get these installed... I really want some brighter lights, but I don't like the HID. I think if I could get just a clear lens and more reflection (like your picture shows) I would be a happy camper.. Do they use the stock bulbs?
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Check your local laws. It is illegal in a lot of states to install HIDs into a housing not designed for them. In rain, visibility is better with halogens.
I just replaced my headlights with the stock lenses. I purchased Phillips Xtreme Power bulbs. I recommend those or stock Sylvania bulbs. These have no coating on the glass. Avoid the bulbs like Silverstar with coatings that diminish light output.
I just replaced my headlights with the stock lenses. I purchased Phillips Xtreme Power bulbs. I recommend those or stock Sylvania bulbs. These have no coating on the glass. Avoid the bulbs like Silverstar with coatings that diminish light output.
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The other thing I'm going to touch on is the oncoming "look" of the headlights. Nothing looks out of the normal as they are just white light whereas the HID's, Blue light, and Projection all look slighty cool, but get the attention of every law enforcement agency there is.
In reality, just some nice lights with some Silverstar Ultra's not only look great, but they are functional.