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4.7L Jumping Time

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Old 09-29-2011, 03:39 PM
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Had a timing arm break and put a new timing chain and tensioner set in. Cranked it up and it ran good but shut off when I put it in reverse and speedometer went to 120 and stuck. Ran like timining was off when I recranked it (will not run without me giving gas). Pulled it down and right sprocket was 1 tooth off. Reset timing rotated engine and put back together. Cranked it up and it idled good, hit reverse and it cut off. Cranked it and had to hold pedal to floor, motor run like timing was off again. Do you have to put oil pressure on the engine to pressurize the tensioners before you button it up? Why is it jumping time only after I put car in gear to move it? 3 months in my shop is too long for me to warrant keeping the pos. The timing chain was $900 from my local auto parts place. I can get $300 from the junkyard, should I tear it down again or haul it off and forget dodge, go chevy?
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:50 PM
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chevy, built like a rock, sinks like one too

honestly i doubt it skipped time again, and putting it in gear wouldnt be the cause of it, once its set it should stay set unless you have a bad tooth on the gear but i would expect that to be pretty obvious.

when you start the truck up, does it idle ok? or does it idle erratically? if it idles poorly check the battery, if the battery is weak it wont idle right, when you shift into gear it puts a load onto the engine and could easily effect it with a weak battery.

also iirc the 4.7 is an interference engine, that means if timing jumps you likely damaged a piston or valve.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:57 PM
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+1 shrps, sounds like the battery.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:49 PM
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Battery is new. It jumped on start up initially. When the arm broke the chain came off the sprocket so all the valves snapped shut. It runs now but very erratic. Engine jumps like it's out of balance, and shuts off when you let off the gas. Had 2 buddies listen to it and all three of us agree on the timing issue. And by the way this is my wife's, my 1991 Chevy has 285,000 moles on it and no problems.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:51 PM
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*miles.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:48 PM
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if i were you (convinced that its a timing issue) id open it up and check the timing if you are so certain thats what it is, but i have never seen these engines jump time without breaking a tooth off the gear or damaged chain, when you put it on i believe you are supposed to rotate the engine twice to make sure the timing marks still line up correctly.

however other things that contribute to not running w/o your foot on the gas are weak battery (idc if its new, at the very least get it load tested, its FREE!!!!!!!!) a bad IAC motor will choke the engine out, a bad TPS will screw with the readings to the computer.

also check that all the sensors going into the top of the engine are in good and the connections are tight.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:28 PM
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Will check. I did rotate engine 2x by hand. Will go over the connections and have IAC checked out. I am not getting a check engine light and code reader is saying all is fine. Thanks.
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:26 PM
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personally i would rotate it more time then that by hand to make sure it was all correct, but then im alot OCD when it comes to working on my truck
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shrpshtr325 View Post
personally i would rotate it more time then that by hand to make sure it was all correct, but then im alot OCD when it comes to working on my truck
+1 on the ocd part
 
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:59 PM
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Did you torque the center bolt for the idler gear? Because if you didn't that will give you all kind of problems.
 

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