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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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i read that some durangos have a 44 re . and my 2nd gen ram 2nd gen ram has 46re ? im confused, can the transissions in the durango handle bolt on. and if the tranny were to go do they make ones wwith heavy duty parts ? or does the durango have the 46re > ?
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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The 5.2 engine came with a 44re, the 5.9 with a 46re, and the 4.7 with the 45rfe.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Yep I have a 46re in my durango, didn't the 5.2l ram have a 44re? Thats what I understood.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 06:10 AM
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cool thanks for the info ! !
 
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The Durango and Ram share many things. People over in the Ram section don't understand or want to comprehend the associations. However on some there are small variances like starter on opposite sides so as to not allow some things to bolt up. But internal they are the same.

5.2L came with the 44-RE and the V6 which is the 3.9L got the 42-RE, the 5.9L got the 46-RE and finally the 2000-2002 got the 45RFE and 2003 got the 545RFE if I remember correctly.

In 2000 they had a 16 tooth 45RFE and in 2001 midway they went to a 32 tooth 45RFE. That's all my feeble brain can muster up right now as I'm feeling under the weather right now.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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I believe Shrp mentioned the other day that a 4 plug pcm = 32 tooth and a 3 plug pcm = 16 tooth for the 45RFE.

I just thought I'd add to the v6 part. Someone over on the doc had numbers, and I think the v6 was only sold in 99 and less than 100 were made IIRC, so the v6-42re combo is almost unseen in the Durango.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Not sure on the amount produced but it wasn't that many at all. But they didn't make the 1998 year even though it was put in the service manual. They started in 1999 and spilled just a few over into 2000. I've only seen like one 2000 so far so very rare indeed.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by that_guy
I believe Shrp mentioned the other day that a 4 plug pcm = 32 tooth and a 3 plug pcm = 16 tooth for the 45RFE.

I just thought I'd add to the v6 part. Someone over on the doc had numbers, and I think the v6 was only sold in 99 and less than 100 were made IIRC, so the v6-42re combo is almost unseen in the Durango.
I'm pretty sure that same guy said that a 3 plug computer means the 45RFE, and 4 plug means the 545RFE? Maybe it wasn't sharp, but I remember seeing someone say that. I have the 4 plug computer in my 02 and I can definitely feel 5 shifts on the way to 100km/h. But that's besides the point as he doesn't even have this trans haha. Just sayin
 
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Here, I found where shrp mentioned it the other day:

Originally Posted by shrpshtr325
yup count your PCM plugs, 4 plugs =32 tooth ring and 3 plugs = 16 tooth ring

Originally Posted by RockGuardedDak
I'm pretty sure that same guy said that a 3 plug computer means the 45RFE, and 4 plug means the 545RFE? Maybe it wasn't sharp, but I remember seeing someone say that. I have the 4 plug computer in my 02 and I can definitely feel 5 shifts on the way to 100km/h. But that's besides the point as he doesn't even have this trans haha. Just sayin
They did switch over from the 45rfe to the 545rfe sometime in mid 02 so it is possible that they 4 plug pcm indicates both. And shrps most certainly did have that transmission for quite a long time, so he knows what he's talking about. He just recently got that Challenger after the engine in his 02 Durango was overheated by a family member.


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Not sure on the amount produced but it wasn't that many at all. But they didn't make the 1998 year even though it was put in the service manual. They started in 1999 and spilled just a few over into 2000. I've only seen like one 2000 so far so very rare indeed.
Yeah, I forget the exact number too, but I'm fairly sure it was close to 100. I think I remember doing the math and finding that only .0001% (or something close to that) of 1st gens were V6s. If I stumble across the numbers I'll post them up.
 

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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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that is correct mid year 2002 they switched the engine controller to the NGC (4 plug PCM, w/ integrated TCM) this mirrored the switch to a 32 ring engine and a 5 speed shift program, the hardware is identical between the 45 and 545 transmissions.
 
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