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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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since im only 16 years old, i was wondering does a throttle body spacer actually increase ur fuel-air mixture
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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no throtle body spacers serve two perposes one is to lengthen the path from t.b. to valve head, the longer the distance the more torque the engine will be able to make . second is to create a vortex which esentialy atomizes the fuel and air mixture which means you wont get more air or fuel but it will ignight easier and burn faster creating more power. hope that answers your question
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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the longer the distance the more torque the engine will be able to make .

How ?

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i was wondering does a throttle body spacer actually increase ur fuel-air mixture
Adding a ram air or cold air intake, high flow filter, get a bigger throttle body, and basically porting your way into the cylinder then adding bigger valves, then a turbo.
Thats going to increase air

So my aweser is... maybe
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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distance from t.b. to head of valve and ofcoarse size,shape,and condition of intake ports and intake manifold runers afects volocity and amount of air that enters the cylinders. volocity is the speed that the air enters the cylinders. higher volocity =more torque. more length in the intake runners/intake plenum ads to the volocity factor
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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But, I think that everyone is missing the point, neons arent tb injected, so the only thing going through the intake manifold would be air until you get to the intake ports on the head, correct?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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no throtle body spacers serve two perposes one is to lengthen the path from t.b. to valve head, the longer the distance the more torque the engine will be able to make . second is to create a vortex which esentialy atomizes the fuel and air mixture which means you wont get more air or fuel but it will ignight easier and burn faster creating more power. hope that answers your question
How can you say no?

There are 2 ways its usefull and the way you've written the above statement shows only one reason not 2, and thats to help with torque. In reality it helps Hp and Torque by adding more distance to the runners. (read bottum of my post for explaination)

My Home brewThrottleBody Spacer added 5hp and I have a Gtech to verify it, not seat of the pants feel. Its a higher end Torque and Horsepower gain.

If you have ever read the captions on the real spacers they claim 8-10hp. It works because it creates Velosity past the throttle body butterfly, which is is verified by the way the SOHC Runners are designed in a horse shoe shape so they can gain the most length to the intake valvesand people fail to see past this point which is why they don't beleive it works.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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ok sweet so is it actually worth buing it?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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ok sweet so is it actually worth buing it?
If you like your car having noticablehigh end power comparable to a DOHC at 5500 Rpm+then YES. The power band where you notice the spacer actually being on is from 3200 Rpm- Redline. I Raced a KIA that hadthe Chinese letters on it and fart can mufflera day after I put the spacer on and I was doubtfull it would be a noticable gain and whenI lined up at the lights I took off normal and we were nose to nose and he started to pull tillaround 3200 Rpm my car said fk this KIA and took off like a Rocket and it was a full quarter mile race as well and I had him by3 car lengths by the time I hit 70mph and 2nd gear started working its magic and I let off at around 85mph then he was about 4-5 car lengths back. I know he was trying too cuz its kind of obvious when your going 80+ in a 35mph zone and the guy is only4 cars back.

That was the most proud I probably ever was of my Neon and the spacer was a huge part of that high end screaming my automatic was doing.


I raced my Sisters 97 Grand Am SE with a 155hp Quad 4 in the RAINand we were deadeven and I almost started to pull on herfrom a 35mph launchbutI broke my tires looseout on the wet pavment and couldn't get any tractionandMy sisterstraction control featurewas kicking in on her car and slowed her down a bitso we both wern't up to the potential we normally would have but with the spacer it made it a little easier to light em up on the pavment going that fast.

I would say the spacer is a must and if you have the chance port your intake and bore the throttlebody deck a little.
 
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