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Any other cams Besides crane.. how much Hp??

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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and what if i put the stock 2.0 in my 2.4 what am i looking at in a gain of performance?? cuz ive been told that it is better to have the 2.0 instead of 2.4
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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dude, your probably only going to get like 10hp. from a cam, but then again you said ur running the 2.4 right? so then ur running a turbo? this kinda info is needed to figure out what ur gain would be. honestly i would skip the internet shopping and call a crane customer rep. pick their brain and find out what you will really get, plus they will help you pick out the RIGHT cam for what you are doing. cams have to be disigned to function within a certain rpm range, and if ur running a turbo the cam has a completely differant shape than if ur n/a. of a n/a 420a opperating at an average rpm of 3000 rpm they'll use a nomial lobe design and if your using a turbo and opperating at 3500 then they will use a polynomial lobe disign with a more agressive ramp angle. i know this is probably over your head, but thats exactly my point, cams are very intricate and DICTATE the personality of an engine. talk to a rep. and get what you really want, you'll apreciate the extra effort!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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we are swapping a 2.4 from a 98 stratus into his car.. NOTURBO. has been done 1000 times....

the difference between the 2.0 and 2.4 stock cams are that the 2.4 cams are tuned for more tq down low and the motor falls on its face around 4500 rpm... it has to have more tq concidering that it normally in a car that is a mid size family car that weighs sigificantly less then a neon... so what people do is put 2.0 stock cams and it opens up your tq range so the car can acually perform above 4500 rpm.. there are things you must do to make the 2.0 cams work but thats a whole different thread...

and not to step on anyones toes but he will be fine with stock retainers its been done millions of times... the titanium ones really dont do squate but look pretty... Hell Jeff B has run crane 28's with stock retainers and has lasted 2 drag seasons and he daily drives the car as well...
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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we are swapping a 2.4 from a 98 stratus into his car.. NOTURBO. has been done 1000 times....

the difference between the 2.0 and 2.4 stock cams are that the 2.4 cams are tuned for more tq down low and the motor falls on its face around 4500 rpm... it has to have more tq concidering that it normally in a car that is a mid size family car that weighs sigificantly less then a neon... so what people do is put 2.0 stock cams and it opens up your tq range so the car can acually perform above 4500 rpm.. there are things you must do to make the 2.0 cams work but thats a whole different thread...

and not to step on anyones toes but he will be fine with stock retainers its been done millions of times... the titanium ones really dont do squate but look pretty... Hell Jeff B has run crane 28's with stock retainers and has lasted 2 drag seasons and he daily drives the car as well...
But when you get into too aggressive of a cam, your looking at a no no with stock retainers. Have you ever seen one fail at high rpms?

I think you should just get a nice pair of 2.0 cams for it boxer, then you can put your money in the turbo bank


Btw, this is just an example of what CAN happen, this was just in my bone stock lawn mower:
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The retainer failed, motor sucked up the intake valve, punched it straight through the head and valve cover twice.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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and what if i put the stock 2.0 in my 2.4 what am i looking at in a gain of performance?? cuz ive been told that it is better to have the 2.0 instead of 2.4
are you gonna try to put the 2.0 motor inside the 2.4 motor???? thats what it sounds like to me

i dont exactly know if you NEED the retainers, but i always want to play it safe when it comes to having over $2,000 in a motor

as far as i know, comp cams are only made for the sohc
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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but cant you just get 2 of them?? and i ment to say use the stock 2.0 cams in the 2.4
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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SOHC and DOHC cams are different.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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sohc cams and dohc are two different things compleatly.... the sohc has both the intake and exaust lobes on one cam... the dohc has the intake on one cam and the exaust on the other...
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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lol ok im dumb[8D]
 
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