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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Default How fast are you at pulling a stock sohc out?

i think the rings or head gasketon the wifes motor went so I think it would be alot easier to just swap the motor out with my back up motor till I can tear the wifes motor apart. Instead of wasting time taking the motor apart only to find it has more wrong with it and still not have the problem fixedI want to swapmy back upperfect running sohc in just so i know what i got.

The problem is my back up sohc is a 95 and my wifes is a 99, what do I need to swap for the 95-99 aplication as far as sensors on the motor?

Whats the fastest way to pull the motor? I usually do just the motor but I'm thinking it might be easier to do transmission at same time. the last motor i did I had a big problem with getting the transmission to line up on the dowl pinsand it took me about20-30 minutes just to get the first bolt started and I threw every tool I had back in the box because i was so mad then my dad finally helped me get it started.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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its 10 times easyer to take the motor and trans out together...
Boxer and I had hismotor, tranny and all in a little over an hour...

easy way to tell what sensors your going to need is to get the wiring harness of the 99 and start putting it on the 95 what ever plugs dont line up you can either take the sensor and swap it or splice the plugs...

I hope you have the oil seperator and what nto for the 95 sohc
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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its 10 times easyer to take the motor and trans out together...
Boxer and I had hismotor, tranny and all in a little over an hour...

easy way to tell what sensors your going to need is to get the wiring harness of the 99 and start putting it on the 95 what ever plugs dont line up you can either take the sensor and swap it or splice the plugs...

I hope you have the oil seperator and what nto for the 95 sohc
it should all be there, my brother and i pulled the motor 2 years ago and pretty much cut the wireing harness and cut every wire and hosethat held it in the car but left the harness ends so we could still use the wires if needed.

I had a huge problem getting the transmission mount into the frame mount because I used a prothane mount and it was extra hard to put it in on top of that i lost my dads 15mm socket in the frame when i took the ratchet out after tightning up the mount wasn't a good day.

So you are sure about it being easier taking it all out as a unit? seems like taking the cv's out would take a bit more work and i would have to take the transmission off anyways but i dunno.Do you drop it through the bottum? i'd think it would be a tight fit between the trans mount.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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no dude you should always take the axels out.. no matter what otherwise you will tare the cv joints apart...

and the trick to getting the tranny mount right is to take the mount off the tranny after droppingit down, pull the motor out the top, re install new motor without the mount, set it on the ground... install the tranny mount to the frame... then lift the motor up and bolt tranny mount to tranny thats the easy way...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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i always put a block under the transmission to hold it up when i took the motor out of my red neon but that was a mtx and wifes car is a atx not sure if it makes a difference.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 05:01 AM
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before i go pull the motor i have 1 question... would a bad or cloggedthrottle body cause the car to have some tail pipesmoke during deceleration and smoke out of the valve cover breather and crank case during idle?and also causelose low end power? when i rev the motor the smoke thins a bit out of the valve cover breatherthen when i let off the smoke stops for a quick second. I would hate to swap the motor and switch all my stuff and find out its the same problem or just a tb so i'd like to know if thats a possibility.

the car is really goofy it has lost some off the line power for sure but still has quite the punch after 3500 rpm like nothing is wrong with the motor no skips or burps or any problems after 3500rpm.

i'm going crazy trying to figure this out but it does seem to be getting better performance with every tear down i do to it such as replacing plugs and intake gaskets but the smoke problem and more than normallagy off the line still exist. the motor to me seems to run too good to be shot but you never know.

thanks in advance.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Default RE: How fast are you at pulling a stock sohc out?

would a bad or cloggedthrottle body cause the car to have some tail pipesmoke during deceleration
no, if the TB is clogged the car wouldnt run. you should run a compression check to make sure you dont have piston ring blow by. The smoke means your burning oil or running really rich
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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what is proper cylinder pressure supposed to be for a sohc?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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it could be your pvc valve pulling oil threw the vac line and into the intake then into the cylinders and then burn causing smoke... this is what happened to boxers sohc 2.0... it was nasty as **** ive never seen a intake manifold that bad and there was atleast a 1/4 inch of sludge on the bottom of the tb
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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thanks alot guys i appreciate the help alot. I've come to the conclusion this motor has got some major ***** for a 2.0 with allegedlybad rings and I'm almost starting to doubt thats the case.

I found out todaythe car used to be turbo charged before i had it (i got it about 2 months ago) and from what the guy tells me now is that he had a very verysmallturbo off of a hondaon it which would backfire like crazy because of the supersmall outlet. I'm wondering that if the old turbo with the pressure backup it could have blown the valve seals out or weakened them enoughcausing exhaust gas to escape from the valve cover via the valve stems? its a stretch but seems like another possibility.

also if it is valve stems causing the smoke through the valve cover would that extra pressure inside the valve cover screw with the pcv valve and cause another source of smoke?

just a guess but it almost seems to give creadence to the fact that there were no metal shavings on the spark plugs and no sign of a blown head gasket, the car will do 85mph all day in 70 degree weather and not move above 183 degrees.

question.. if it would be valve seals how hardare they to changefor a sohc? and how much should i expect to spend?
 
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