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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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I got a stock 95 SOHC cam. New, Unused. It came w/ my longblock I bought 2 years ago. It's sitting in my parts cabinet and I doubt I will ever use it.
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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yes the 95 cam is very close to the crane number 10... i love mustang cobras... lol my buddy just bought a 99 cobra... killer car never been the biggest mustang fan but after driving that car i have a new found respect for them... its i know not the fastest or most powerfull car but something about how everything works together the car is just plain killer... just plain fun to drive....

edit is that 03 SC... i can't remember when the cobras went supercharged... i dunno i've always loved turbos and scs and that but i've found more of a respect for all motor combos lately due to it usually takes more work to get a lot of power...... besides with sc you always got that annoying *** whine....
 

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Old May 31, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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yeah its an 03 SC now with an 100 shot! in that video it was stock
 
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Altima_wb
yes the 95 cam is very close to the crane number 10
Correction. The 95 cams is not close in performance to the crane #10. The 95 cam (while does help some with performance, has left output than the magnum cam. The mag cam also came in two different sies, with the 2001 being the larger. 02-04 were slightly less aggrssive. Now the 01 magnum cam is slightly similar to a crane #10. The 01 cam has more lift on the intake side, whiele the crane#10 has far more duration.





 

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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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well if your looking at just the lift yeah only the 01 mag cam is close but you also have to look at duration and lobe separation which also have a huge affect on the performance of the cam... which if you do you see that the 95 sohc is the closest of all the cams to the crane #10 yes its a bit short on lift... but you notice i said its very close in performance not specs.. which means you dyno both those cams in the same engine the results will be very simular not exact but close of course the crane will be a touch better but not enough to make it worth swaping to if you have a 95 sohc... unless you get one for free... although i don't really see the point of swaping a cam in unless you either get a magnum cam for really cheap or go straight for the crane #12
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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I suppose you have a dyno shee to support this comment? The 95 cam has more intake duration than the other cams mentioned but that is it. It falls short on the exhaust stoke, and on the intake/exhaust lift. No. It is not better than any mag cam. These specs equal performance, or do you just buy parts because you like the pretty picture?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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i never said once that its better then the mag or any other came except the 96 and up cam... i said it was close in performance to the others... and no i don't have a dyno sheet to back it up but i know from several neon guys around me with 95s that gained almost nothing when they swapped to the #10 cam... like i said its close in performance to the #10 i never said it was better i even said in my last post which you didn't read that the number 10 was better but its not a lot... but i also posted that i don't really recommend swapping to a cam unless your going to the crane #12... unless you get a mag cam for cheap then yeah its a good deal... i spend more time researching my parts purchases then i do most other things... and once again there is more to cams performance then valve lift duration and lobe seperation have the same amount of affect on performance as does lift seen as if the valve is open longer obviously more air is going to get in.... i've spent more time researching cams then you probably have spent working on your car... not just neons but for other vehicles as well actually most of my knowledge is based off research for my truck but most of it carries over... and before you make a stupid comment about the peopl i know with sohc neons that aren't on here... they ain't on here because of people like you that just look at a couple words and think they know everything... i don't really care what you think of me i know what i know and thats all that matters to me... don't believe thats fine i don't really care it won't affect my life... i'm just trying to tell these guys from my experiance that the crane #10 is not a worth while upgrade for a 95 engine... and not much of an upgrade for any SOHC engine... its not that much better and for the money spent the #12 will give you much better performance and still not affect daily driveability...
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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And so it finally goes personal. Because a few friends did not get numbers/performance makes it hard evidence. If that works for you then fine. Just not how I draw my conclusions all the time, which is not to say I do nto have my own experiences here and there. The comment that specs are not an ccurate measure of expected gains/performance seems very debatable. This is why do not have 15 sec street cars racing top fuel cars in races. They have different output levels, different specs. That is a gross exaggeration, but you get the point. There are too many variables that come into play when you mention " several cars did not get gains." The setup they had; car condition; driver ability, just to name a few. So unless they had their cars dynoed, the "Butt Dyno" is not admissable evidence. Save the e-thug comments for someone else. Your feelings have nothing to do with comparing a 95 cam to a crane #10.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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how is a few people not getting results not proof that the cam is not worth it... if you spent over 300 bucks on a cam and only gain maybe 2-3hp over the stock cam and thats with a lot of other mods to match including afx pcm, exhaust including header, cai, pulley, tb, and adjustable cam gears... and the 2-3hp extra was after adjusting the timing on the cams with the gears... thats not much of an increas at all and 3 different people with pretty much same basic mods (well they all had different exhaust and header setups) but still all 3 of them got pretty much the same 2-3hp max increase with the same cam... how is that not proof that it is not worth the money to install on a 95 neon? afterwards one bought installed a crane 12 with if i remember right about a 15hp gain over the 10... one bought a 14 with about an 20hp gain... but a fair amount of loss on the bottom end... and the other just kept his 10 cause he didn't have the money to buy a different cam... right there proves to me that the 10 isn't worth upgrading to it just isn't i don't know what else would prove its not worth the money... but i know all 3 of my friends wouldn't ever recommend getting a #10 either for the same amount of money you can stick a 12 in and get all the added performance without any disadvantage versus the 10... who wouldn't want the extra power for the same amount of money it just don't make sense not to...
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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We are discussion a sohc cam, yes? How are they adjusting cam "gears?" With no dyno numbers, you have no way of approximating any potential gains/losses. 20hp from a #14 cam? And you have have three wise friends to give advice, plus all your experience with cars. Right.




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