i said cams and gears cause it was on 3 engines and 3 cams... so yes plural cause there was more the 1 gear and more then one 1 cam and i was talking about all 3 of them... cause they all did the same work would have figured you might be able to understand that but obviously you have a hard time understanding that also...

 

If that is what you meant than ok. But you are tryign to tell me you can gauge hp increase with no dyno. False. You cannot. And with no before and after comparison, it is unknown. You expect me to believe there is a about a 10hp diffrence between a crane #10 and crane #12? You have got to be on meds. The condition of the cars, the weather, elevation (and more) all come into play. The adjustable gear is useless, unless they were all using a seperate tuning device. Why, if they were looking for such significant gains, do you friends buy the smallest aftermarket cam available? That has to seem odd to you. It is not a matter of cost, because the Crane #10, #12, and #14 all cost the same?! That is a no brainer.


Oh, let's address some of your insults.

Did you gauge this the same way you gauge the hp of a car? What if I do not own a car? How does that impact your equation and the amount of time you have spent researching cam shafts?


I am sure (or would like to think) your pals are decent guys, but why bring up 3rd parties and then assume I care enough to insult them? Where does that come from? Why aren't we talking about your neon and personal experiences? Or do you just have the truck? You say I think I know everthing, yet you are the one that came "accurately" tell what parts make certain hp.

 

first off they were on a dyno i never once said they werent on a dyno... but whatever i'm done fighting... yeah i do have the truck and i do have a neon that i've only had mine for 3 months and as of yet its still stock cause like it says in my sig its my daily driver... but its not my first neon i've worked on... i helped my buddies build their neons and now i'm finally working on one of my own... but also like my sig says mine is a dohc so all of this fight about the cams has nothing to do with my personal car...

 

You are the one that got personal. The fact that you really believe that a 95 sohc cam is very similar to a crane #10 cam shows me you do not know how to read a cam chart. So if you have in fact been researching cams for the past 9 yrs (that is how long I have been working on cars-not just neons)...
... I wish you all the best. Get a second opinion if you really believe I am on about the cams. Please. The is more than enough inaccurate info out there. Seriously. Ask Das2123

 

i never said the cams were simular i said the performance of them is simular... and overall not worth upgrading to the #10 from the 95 cam... you really need to learn how to read.... i've said it more then once in this whole fight and again incase you missed it that time also the 95 cam is close in performance to the #10 cam... even though the complete differance in specs the 10 will barely out perform the 95 cam overall not worth upgrading to if you have a 95 sohc.... unless you get the number 10 for basically nothing....