Okay so i am putting some stage 2 crower cams in my car and now I am at the point where i have the cams on the head, but unfortunately I forgot to take pics. I need to know what the lobes on the cams look like ( which way they are orientated) on cams at TDC. Please help!

This is what i have:

 

Are you asking how to align the cam gears to TDC (where the crank is sitting)? I think I may be misunderstanding you but all you need to do is align all your timing marks.

 

We figured it out, the question was how are the cams supposed to sit when at top dead center, like i said though we figured it out.

 

Okay so we got the cams orientated correctly, and have the timing belt on and tensioned correctly, no matter what we do though the cams always seem like they're off, according to this post http://www.*********.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85605 its as good as it gets.
This is after the motor has been rotated twice.

These are my pics for show and tell:





So what I need to know is this normal?

 

How come I cant see the adjustment notches pointed up like the intake cam? Take s straight edge across all 4 notches, all 4 need to be level across the cam gears. It still looks a little off to me, but you never know. And your right it wont look 100% but it should be damn close.

 

Well come to find out the exhaust cam gear is on upside down go figure.
Are you referring to the 4 notches (2 on each side of the gears) and line those up to where they are straight across? Yah its definitely close, just not enough to be satisfying.

I forgot to mention that the head has been milled too, and i forgot that plays a difference in alignment and trimming.

 

Yes all 4 notches go straight across. It needs to be so close that you cant make it any closer. I did one just a few weeks ago and it took me 6 times until I got it on, and I still wasn't 100% if it was on. Yes head decking will affect how they sit a little. Just grab straight edge and makes sure the 2 outside ones line up, one middle one to line up, and the other within 1/16 of an inch. The timing procedure for it will help, they want the crank 1/2 tooth off while setting the belt up, so when its tightened it pulls everything into time. Rotate the motor by hand to seat the belt, and recheck the timing.

In the last photo with the closeup it looks like the timing is not right.

 

This is what its at now:

 

Looks good just make sure the crank is still tdc, rotate the motor by hand to confirm. Also make sure the cam gears are adjusted to 0.

 

Yep we did all that and then we retarded the exhaust by two degrees because I had a got a performance book for neons and said that was a good thing to do.