97 Neon Doggy off the line
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My 97 Plymouth neon is a real dog off the line. Just seems gutless, once it gets up in rpm it pulls great and seems to have decent power for a 4 banger. It previously broke the timing belt which is why I bougt it for a fixer uper. Did all the valves, timing belt, idlers and tensioner, and all new gaskets/seals from the head out. Idle is smooth and throttle responce is fine. Friend thinks I may have the one of the cams retarded a little bit, but I sincerely doubt it, I tripple checked the cam timing. It's got the automatic so I'm guessing that's part of the reason it's a little gutless from zero. I'm new to 4 cylinder cars so I don't expect it to run that good, but my buddies 1.9L saturn (standard trans) will spank the **** out of my neon... So mainly the question is are all the auto neons a little lacking in the power department off the line in stock coniguration, or do I have something messed up?
Thanks in advance...
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Do you have a dohc or sohc ? The Dohc has 150 stock( suppose to) I forget what the Sohc has but its not 150. getting spanked by that saturn had to suck. but back to your question, I think the neons are a little sluggish when it comes to line launching, I wondered that same thing my self and started looking into mods to fix it. for one there is a weight issue. all neons don't weigh the same, mine is heavy and pisses me off, thats why this summer when I get rims im going to get light weight ones, you could invest in pulley, autobody valve those would help out don't underestimate a 4 cylinder, especially a neon. If you set your car up right, you can really kick some tale, simply putting on a turbo can kick some tale, look at the SRT-4 that has hella power and its only a 4 cyl
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Ok that makes me feel a little better. Mine's the DOHC, but then again so was the saturn... This thing doesn't seem that heavy, if I grab the rear wheel well I can pick a tire off the ground and scoot it around the shop where I work. It's 100% stock, and runs great once it hits a little higher rpm. Thanks for the replys, and if you got any more suggestions on how to get some more low end and/or milage out of it keep em comin. Thanks
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Ok that makes me feel a little better. Mine's the DOHC, but then again so was the saturn... This thing doesn't seem that heavy, if I grab the rear wheel well I can pick a tire off the ground and scoot it around the shop where I work. It's 100% stock, and runs great once it hits a little higher rpm. Thanks for the replys, and if you got any more suggestions on how to get some more low end and/or milage out of it keep em comin. Thanks
Ok that makes me feel a little better. Mine's the DOHC, but then again so was the saturn... This thing doesn't seem that heavy, if I grab the rear wheel well I can pick a tire off the ground and scoot it around the shop where I work. It's 100% stock, and runs great once it hits a little higher rpm. Thanks for the replys, and if you got any more suggestions on how to get some more low end and/or milage out of it keep em comin. Thanks
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the saturn is made out of alot of fiber glass, my best friend has one and recenly had a little fender bender. but his fender didnt bend it broke! surprise both of us, we took a magnet around the car and some information off the net found out that most of it was fiberglass, so i suggest a tranny swap i just did one( i hate the pedal bracket) and my neon really suprized me on how it performs
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ATX has ~30% power loss, compared to ~15% for the MTX. That's a huge amount, even for a little 2.0L 4-banger.
The ATX cars are only supposed to rev to 6500 rpm to protect the torque converter. The DOHC has a peakier torque/HP curve than the SOHC, and most of its useable power you'll never see (the 150 HP rating is at 6500 rpm, which you'll only see for a split second). That's why the DOHC ATX's are the slowest Neons ever made (0-60, 1/4 mile). Put in a 5-speed, put in a PCM that let's you rev to the intended 7200 RPM (7450ish with the Mopar version), and that Saturn isn't going to be a problem.
I can't figure out where everybody get's their info saying the Neon has very little low-end power. Compared to what? A 5.9L v8? Well, duh! Compare the torque figures and curves to other similar engines of the times - Acura Integra, VW Golf, Honda Civic, Saturns, etc. The specific outputs of the Neon are definitely better, and the Neon (particularly the SOHC) made a LOT more torque a LOT earlier. That's one of the reasons it was so dominant on the autocross course (that and the suspension) for the first 5 years of its life.
The ATX cars are only supposed to rev to 6500 rpm to protect the torque converter. The DOHC has a peakier torque/HP curve than the SOHC, and most of its useable power you'll never see (the 150 HP rating is at 6500 rpm, which you'll only see for a split second). That's why the DOHC ATX's are the slowest Neons ever made (0-60, 1/4 mile). Put in a 5-speed, put in a PCM that let's you rev to the intended 7200 RPM (7450ish with the Mopar version), and that Saturn isn't going to be a problem.
I can't figure out where everybody get's their info saying the Neon has very little low-end power. Compared to what? A 5.9L v8? Well, duh! Compare the torque figures and curves to other similar engines of the times - Acura Integra, VW Golf, Honda Civic, Saturns, etc. The specific outputs of the Neon are definitely better, and the Neon (particularly the SOHC) made a LOT more torque a LOT earlier. That's one of the reasons it was so dominant on the autocross course (that and the suspension) for the first 5 years of its life.