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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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yeah...like i said in my previous post and like what hydrashocker said in the durango forum,i have actually dribbled water into the carb on my old carberated 318 and 340 and it didnt hurt it. i dont know if it actually helped, but i know it didnt hurt anything. the black smoke coming out told me that it was doing at least some cleaning, i kept dripping wateruntilthe exhaust was normal and not all smoky.its not something id do all the time...maybe once a year or something like that, but then again, i dont know if it would work the same way ona fuel injected motor...and again, i just dripped a little at a time and didnt dump a cup in there.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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a couple interesting links on this subject to look at...

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/35...n-removal.html
http://www.cartalk.com/content/colum...tember/02.html
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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lol varsis, on my 97 i didnt pour the water in there on purpous i got it in ther while driving through a shallow stream. my point was that the durango section moderator is telling people to pour distilled water down thier tb, and saying no harm will come of it. i own quite a few of these rigs and a few older mopars, and i would never intentionally pour water in the tb or carb, like i said earlier i think a fine spray would be fine. like a water/meth injection, but pouring it in, you just might get to much. that was the reason i started this thread, i wanted to see how many other people thought this was wrong, besides me.
Get a snorkel if you need to go through streams. Spray fine, it will be like getting injection. But I would say anything over 10ml will probably ruin it. maybe even 5 or a bit less. Water is something you don't want to mess with. I would just use seafoam. Don't be that cheap.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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This is completely retarded.

Pouring water into your engine is supposed to clean it???? lol

I have some beach-front property in Arizona I'd like to sell to anyone who does this.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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This is completely retarded.

Pouring water into your engine is supposed to clean it???? lol

I have some beach-front property in Arizona I'd like to sell to anyone who does this.
I herd that song the other day.. booooya!
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Pouring water down the intake manifold, in moderation, will help clean the combustion chambers, yes. I usedto use GM top engine cleaner on my GM cars, and it was a liquid that you would pour down the carburetor. This procedure was not without risk -- if you poured too much down too quickly, you could hydrolock the engine.

The most common way of steam cleaning the engine isn't by pouring water, but rather misting it into the engine with a sprayer (likea Windex bottle). In small quantities, water is absolutely a good cleaning agent for combustion chamber deposits.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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The most common way of steam cleaning the engine isn't by pouring water, but rather misting it into the engine with a sprayer (likea Windex bottle). In small quantities, water is absolutely a good cleaning agent for combustion chamber deposits.
...as long as it's done like this, it will work but dumping 2 cups of water down your intake is NOT a good idea. Also, you can mix it with a little alcohol to help it evaporate a little quicker. 50/50 mix should do the trick.

There are also a bunch of additives that allegedly perform the same function but they all cost money.

There are a few "old school" tricks like this that still will work today. Another one would be to put 1 quart of tranny fluid in with your oil at your next change. The detergents in the trans fluid coupled with the lighter weight of the trans oil will scrub out a lot of the stuff that motor oil might not get.
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Pouring water down the intake manifold, in moderation, will help clean the combustion chambers, yes. I usedto use GM top engine cleaner on my GM cars, and it was a liquid that you would pour down the carburetor. This procedure was not without risk -- if you poured too much down too quickly, you could hydrolock the engine.

The most common way of steam cleaning the engine isn't by pouring water, but rather misting it into the engine with a sprayer (likea Windex bottle). In small quantities, water is absolutely a good cleaning agent for combustion chamber deposits.
are there any products i can get at the parts store for this?

i did an OOPS a couple months ago...was using a throttle body cleaner on the outside of the throttle body and just a little down the throat per the directions. the engine was running, and there wasmaybe a couple ouncesof cleaner that collected on the butterflys and i meant to blot it with a paper towel so it wouldnt all go down the TB, but i hit the linkage and the butterflys opened. the engine sputtered a little so i reved it some and a ton of black smoke came out the tailpipe for a second. i thought i may have fouled the plugs but about a couple weeks later i changed my plugs from the plats to the coppers and they looked good, all normal and clean. after thinking more on this, i might have actually done some good by doing that i guess.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Yes, I used a bottle of liquid GM Top Engine Cleaner on my brother's former 1996 Grand Cherokee (with 5.2L) much the same way you would in a carbureted vehicle -- you slowly pour about half the contents into the engine and let it burn it. By "slowly", I mean literally just barely drizzle it in. After that, you're supposed to quickly dump it in and stall the engine. That's according to the directions on the can, but that was long ago, whem compression ratios were fairly low. I just drizzled the whole thing in and shut the engine off at the end to let it soak. The idea of dumping the rest of the can in quickly is to literally get liquid into the combustion chamber to soak the carbon. Then when you start it 15-20 minutes later, you get a LOT of smoke (usually white) out the tailpipe(s).

Water performs the same purpose. And now, you can actually buy the GM Top Engine Cleaner in an aerosol form, for more typical fuel-injected engines with horizontal throttle bodies. I understand that "Sea Foam" performs much the same purpose. I've been a GM guy for a long time, so I'm familiar with the GM product, but Sea Foam works too. And the topic of this tread is also correct -- water does well at this also. Just mist it in or drizzle it in and let the engine burn it as you go. Don't dump a lot of liquid, whatever it is, into the engine at once.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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i dont know how these engines are or if they can take a little water, they are different than the old carberatedmopar engines i used to have, but i used to pour just a little bit of water down the carb once in a while. (just a few drops at a time with the engine running and rev it so it didnt stall).at the time it was said that it would knock the carbon buildup off the valves. black smoke would come out of it while i did that and it ran fine afterwards...i know fuel injected cars are different so i probably wouldnt be doing that unless i knew for sure it worked.

i read hydrashockers claims, and that is exactly what i used to do to my older carberated 318's and 340's. the results he claims are the same ones that i always heard. like i said, these engines are way different and id like to hear some facts before i was to ever try this, but logically thinking, i dont see a problem with it as long as you dont pour a gallon at a time down there. the water is just going to turn to steam, evaporate,and blow out the exhaust.
This is what I'm talking about!

I know what hydrolock is and this is what I'm trying to steer away from. Maybe I over spesified 2 cups not thinking of the actual amount needed.

Now I don't encourage it but I have had success with it! Now water injection has been around for a long time and let me ask everyone here, what is the difference? Sure it is atomized but it still acts the same. Now the use of distilled water over regular water is because of mineral compounds grinding on your cylinder walls and leaving deposits in your motor. I have tried atomized water and have not gotten the same effect.

Now I'm not talking about just open the hatch and pour it in! Surely this would defiantly blow the motoror cause other problems. But to bring your motor up to about 3500 rpm and gentlydrizzel some water in the TB just until the motor cleans it's self out isNOT out of the question.

If used justonce in the motors life or so isn't going to kill it. I have broken motors down that have done this and the inside looks great.The motor looks fine and runs great!I have tested my theory and didn't just run at the mouth.

"Now in my opinion" and from tests, I haven't had a problem. Can one happen, YES! Anything can happen. Just like the Seafoam, although it is not regulated, people put it in their engines. There is no flack about that!

But if you’re going to tare me apart, you might want to get my opinion and let me know. Talk about being stabbed in the back here!
 
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